Daniel sits down with Mark Gober (@markgober_author), former Princeton tennis captain, investor, and author of the eight-book Upside Down series, to explore consciousness, psychic phenomena, UFOs, NASA, cosmology, medicine, and the spiritual implications of questioning mainstream narratives.
Gober shares how research into remote viewing, near-death experiences, and consciousness led him to challenge materialism and rethink our understanding of reality. They dig into the history of NASA, the moon landing, geocentrism, UAPs, and the debate between evidence and inference, before exploring deeper questions about free will, moral responsibility, and the nature of existence.
Along the way, Gober reflects on the personal cost of challenging accepted beliefs and why he believes consciousness may be central to understanding who we are and the world we inhabit.
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Mark Gober serves on the board of directors at the Institute of Noetic Sciences and is the author of the Upside Down series of eight books—spanning the topics of consciousness, politics, economics, UFOs, medicine, cosmology, religion, and more. His first book, An End to Upside Down Thinking (2018), won the IPPY award for best science book of the year and was endorsed by researchers with affiliations at Harvard, Princeton, UVA, and UCSF (among others). He then wrote An End to Upside Down Living (2020), An End to Upside Down Liberty (2021), An End to Upside Down Contact (2022), An End to the Upside Down Reset (2023), An End to Upside Down Medicine (2023), An End to the Upside Down Cosmos (2024), and An End to Upside Down Creation (2026). Mark is also the host of the eight-episode podcast series Where Is My Mind?, released in 2019, which explores the scientific evidence for telepathy, the afterlife, and more. Previously, Mark was a partner at Sherpa Technology Group in Silicon Valley and worked as an investment banking analyst with UBS in New York. He has been named one of IAM’s Strategy 300: The World’s Leading Intellectual Property Strategists. Mark graduated magna cum laude from Princeton University, where he wrote an award-winning thesis on Daniel Kahneman’s Nobel Prize–winning “Prospect Theory” and was elected a captain of Princeton’s Division I tennis team.
