Daniel Vitalis
ReWild Yourself, ReWild the Planet

“Hunter Safety?” ~ Why I am not a Vegan

“How have I come to be here” I asked myself as a late March Saturday slips by, the 3rd and final day of the Maine Hunter Safety class. What a long and unlikely story it is, and as I reflect over all that has transpired, I feel deeply honored to be here.  Let me explain…

I grew up in a little college town in Southern New Hampshire and no one ever exposed me to hunting. It would be more appropriate to say no one ever exposed me to food. I grew up in a strange distortion of the cookie cut mold of the lower middle class of New England.  We ate “food” from the supermarket, and did what our doctors told us to.

Our dinners were Kraft macaroni and cheese and Hamburger Helper.  Brands of foods but not really types of food.  After all, they were really just made of a few things… ultimately corn and soy.  Or animals raised on corn and soy.  Or animals raised on corn soy and each other.

We ate these animals and drank their milk too.  Homogenized and Pasteurized, two words I grew up with but couldn’t have defined. We drank the chemical digestive aids, called sodas, cans of phosphoric acid to “wash down” the  industrial age food that we had eaten. Antibiotics were administered regularly to prevent the outbreak of plague within the confines of our over-populated school.

I, like so much of my generation, was a factory farmed human in turn of the century America.

But this was all to change….

My first experience with Vegetarianism took place when I was just a boy, probably age 10 or 11… It didn’t last long, maybe a week or so, but I was deeply drawn to it.  There was something about the concept, and of what it communicated, that spoke to me.  It was something about taking a stand for the value of life,  something about caring…  I was then too young to articulate it but I could sense the importance of my food choices and how they are about so much more than just feeding ourselves. I came to know that our food choices are about who we are and how we live, together, on this planet.

By age 15 I had developed the independence necessary to make my own dietary choices.  A friend and role model had re-introduced me to vegetarianism, tofu (it was still a ‘health’ food then) and juicing…  I was heavily influenced but not totally changed.

Another year goes by and I got my first real job working at Wendy’s manning the grill.  I had gotten pretty overweight, and was living on fast food.  Literally.  Little did I know then that my entire body was being constructed of corn, soybean, and potato, either as fries, buns and oil, or as factory farmed animals that form the meat portion of the menu…  There was an all-you-can eat salad bar there too…  Consisting of mostly iceberg lettuce and dressings made from the oils of corn, soy, or canola (which means Canadian Oil, and is a trade name for rape seed) oils.

But just then came the light of revelation!  Partly exotic pharmacology (I will let you guess), partly a teenage crush ( I was really self conscious about my weight), and partly destiny… I was ready for change!  I bought a membership to a gym, and overnight I become a vegetarian…. or more appropriately a “Nutritional Vegetarian”.  My choices were based solely on the belief that this was the nutritionally superior diet and nothing more.  Well maybe a little more, as my ego liked it too!

It felt good to be doing something different, something against the grain.  It felt evolved and honorable and even monastic.

Those first few years were confusing…  it was the days of fat free and high carb.  It was the days of soy ‘milk’ and…  well… soy everything (even the so called soy ‘cheese’ and fake ‘meat’). I used to go to the Health Food store which was really just a grain depot with lots of cereals, dried fruits and vitamins. I trusted that everything there was good for my health.

Ooops!

By age 18 I was getting hungry, really hungry, and wasn’t sure what to eat…  And so I decided, rather hesitantly, to begin reintegrating some meats.  This lasted just a week or so and I was feeling guilty, like I had gone back on my vows.  Just then someone handed me a book by the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (strange stuff indeed!) and there was a little section in there about their dietary rules.  It said that they abstained from meat.  This was the confirmation I had been waiting for, so I set out to research more.

These was the early days of the internet, back when you had to listen to that high pitched squeal as you ‘dialed-up’ with a phone line.  I visited the library to use what was then an exotic and uncommon technology. I began researching the Krishna’s which led me to information about Animal Rights and Veganism.  To say I was shocked would be an understatement.  Strangely, after years as a vegetarian, I had never really considered the plight of the animals nor had I thought about the conditions that they were raised in.  I had never seen a or even heard of a factory farm.  The videos of animal slaughter and the cruelty of the farming conditions revolted me.  I vowed then and there to never to participated in this profane carnage again.

To be honest I felt dirty…  contaminated.  I wanted to be absolved and cleansed from the sins of my culture.  And I knew that I would dedicate my life to unraveling this secret to reveal the truth of where our food was coming from.

And so now I was a Vegan.  A “Moral Vegetarian”.

I started spending each and every day at the library, starting with the squeal of the internet dialing, and ending with the “Sir, your time is up” when my hour had gone by. I discovered ‘Raw Foodism’ and felt immediately connected to it, like it was what I had been looking for.  It felt perfect, a combination of ethics and nutrition.  Its Mythos closely mirrored the Christian one I grew up with.  It is the story of a fall from grace.

The  Raw Food Vegan diet says that we once lived in a paradise where there was very little sickness or disease.  That it was cooking that led to our banishment from this Utopia.  Cooking was the proverbial “forbidden fruit” of good and evil that led to our fall from health. The idea was that cooking not only “killed” our food but rendered it toxic with denatured and deranged molecules and deactivated enzymes.

Over the years this toxicity increases (or bio-accumulates) making people sick, and this “toxemia” can only be cleansed by water fasting, juicing, and eating Raw Foods.  With enough cleansing you can be restored to the state of health enjoyed by the human of the golden age, and be free of all that is vile about life. Ultimately we can wash our hands of death altogether, living in a state of purity and moral righteousness, where nothing ever dies to sustain our lives (perhaps plants are not alive?).

I aspired to eat a Frutarian Diet, where not even a plant would die for me to live, where only the fruits and seed of plants would feed me, and I would escape the wheel of Karma to which I had been born a slave. I felt a renewed sense of purpose and set out upon a new adventure.  I was taking the Road Less Traveled  and it was the moral high road, the nutritional high road, and yes, even the world-saving political high road too.

Cooked food was dead food… and you are what you eat.  Therefore eating “Living Food” must lead to more Life Force, and so I would now eat my food as whole and intact as possible. I wanted to be cleansed, and so cleansed I was.  The first three days were like nothing I had ever experienced before.  It was almost psychedelic.  The experience of eating so few calories and eating such light and easily digested food allowed my body to mobilize energy to cleanse itself of industrial, pharmacological and chemical bio accumulated waste.

Many of the old injuries and nagging pains that I had lived with quickly subsided, as my body, with its new surplus of energy, could now focus on some much needed repairs. In what felt like an instant I was changed from a 175 lb muscly athlete (Thanks to that gym membership!  I am 5′5″ so that was a bit stocky) to 145 in just a few weeks, my body burned off tissue, shed water and salt, and cleaned house in ways I never knew possible.  My eyes glistened, I felt light and easy in my body and mind. It was like my need for sleep diminished and I awoke each morning with a kind of excitement and zest for life that I had never known before!

What looked like a bizarre if not dangerous dietary experiment had deeply troubled my friends and family, and really isolated me socially, but it was worth it!  It was like a religion… like a Raw-ligion!

Today I look back in amusement.  I was a radical and even militant raw foodist.  It was the only thing that mattered to me for years.  We were a movement, and the internet was our rallying point!  We marched with the mantra constantly at our lips… “Cooked food is poison!”

Fast forward just over half of a decade… That shiny, energetic feeling had faded and had been fading for years.  My teeth ached and I had recurrent fungal problems.  I was chronically hungry (actually the correct term here is “starving”), and powerfully addicted to fruit sugar.  The more I “learned” about the dangers of food the more foods I cut out of my diet. There was so little left that I “could” eat.  At this time I didn’t eat oils or salt, I didn’t use herbs or spices, just fruits and vegetables…  seeds and nuts… and oh, so many nuts!

Just getting enough calories to stay alive was a struggle.  My digestion was poor and getting worse.  No matter how bad I felt the experts, books and websites of the Raw Food gurus assured me that these were just symptoms of “toxicity”, that soon I would be fully cleansed and would experience the heavenly health that was my birthright.  I believed them.

Then, enter the Superfood movement.

The term isn’t new, but rather a re-emergence of a term from earlier in the 1900’s.  This renewed version was born out of “health food” marketing, and strongly influenced by the Raw Food movement.  I, like so many Raw Food eaters had hit the wall.  We knew there was something missing, we just couldn’t determine what it was.

After all, we were so sure that this was the perfect diet of humanity.  That it was the original diet of our species.  It was perfect in both practice and philosophy.  What else could there be.

The Superfoods came into our community with some suspicion.  Many Fundamentalist Raw Food eaters viewed them as a weakening of our dietary values, and as toxic and even poisonous.  Still, they took hold and spread through our community like a wild fire.  Is poisonous a bad thing?  Check this DVD to hear more about the connection between “poison” and “medicine”

With them came a renewed interest in Herbalism.  This was in direct opposition to the earlier raw foodist beliefs of the 19th and 20th century (then called “Natural Hygiene”), which said that all herbs and spices were toxins (read “sinful”) and exited the appetite as they overstimulated the nervous system.  This created a rift in the RawFood community that split it into factions….

Ha!  It really does read like a cult, right?

I chose to go the way of Superfoods and Herbalism.  It was much more fun, exciting, and far more sustainable.  Actually, for years it was like a party!  With foods like oils (especially coconut oil), and sweeteners (like agave), I now was getting enough calories to sustain a healthy body weight (wanna lose weight fast?  try living on celery. apples, carrots, and almonds), and with herbs I could begin addressing the health concerns that the more rigid Raw Food dogma always blamed on toxicity (this is your fault and you must be cleansed (repent) of your toxicity (sins).

Now, here is a twist in the tale…  Towards the end of my 20’s I had been handed a book by Dr. Weston Price called “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” (Get it free online here!).  This book had a profound influence on me, and proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was in fact a need for animal food in the human diet.  This was very challenging to embrace, as I had literally crafted my entire identity out of the things that I didn’t eat!

…But the evidence was irrefutable…

Dr. Price had studied the teeth and dental arches of 12 cultures around the world, comparing the teeth of those who had eaten the traditional diets of their people to those who were raised on the modern diet of the West.  We are blessed that this research was done, as today it would be nearly impossible to repeat.  He had shown that our species was degenerating quickly on our modern food, and for reasons that I hadn’t expected.  Not because of toxins, and not because of cooked foods.  In fact, it was because of the inclusion of the poorly grown and highly refined products of agriculture (primarily refined carbohydrates), and the lack of high quality wild or pastured (grass fed) animal foods!

While the book is a must read, even more valuable are the images, which page after page show the teeth and dental arches of both people raised on their indigenous diets and their children who have been raised on the foods of the West.  Of course our own foods have degenerated by orders of magnitude since 1939 when this book was first published!

Remember that teeth are modified bones, and the condition of the teeth and dental arch are a window into the skeletal structure itself, as well as the health of the rest of the body.

This, by the way, is where we get the saying “don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”…  which essentially means that it is rude to examine something closely to see if its good enough when it is a gift freely given. But I digress….

This research was conducted at a time when many of the indigenous and traditional cultures of the world were being rapidly assimilated into our Western mono-culture.  These pictures (of which there are many) show us a comparison of one generation to the next.  Please imagine what the mouths of “modern developed” people here in the West would look like without the use of braces to disguise the reality.  I know it challenges the political correctness of our day, but Weston Price called this “Degeneration”, and with this I must agree.

What an inner turmoil this created for me.  I wanted to act on this new information, but I was so indoctrinated into the beliefs of the Raw Food movement.  I had spent years meeting others, who like me ate Raw Foods.  I had attended workshops and retreats, read every book that I could, and even organized local potlucks.

It was a very difficult thing for me to incorporate.  I began eating raw cheeses and sometimes eggs.  I did this for years though I barely allowed into my awareness.  It was something that I was hiding, not from others, but from myself…  There was a dissonance, two opposing views held within my mind…..  I just couldn’t fully accept it…

I carried on, over the course of a few years, sometimes eating cheeses, then slowly eggs, and eventually even fish.  All the while I still lived amongst and traveled within the Raw Food community…  I was not alone, as many others were doing this as well.

Strangely we all just sort of hid it.  It was treated like a weakness or an indulgence.

Slowly I began to awaken to what was happening.  I began to study chemistry and anthropology.  I began to study wild foods and to harvest medicines from nature.  Over the course of time I was making peace with my need for animal food.

About a year and a half ago I was introduced to the “Primal Diet”…  a diet based heavily on raw meats, as well as the idea of “Traditional Diets” which includes unpasteurized grass fed dairy products…  For the first time I gave myself permission to really begin exploring this.

The premise is that we are a product of the ice age.  It is a diet that is based on anthropology rather than on a Garden of Eden tale of our ancestral diet.  After all, when we look at cave paintings of our ancestors it is images of the hunt that we see.  When we visit the still living “primitives” of today, our window into the past, we find diets largely based on animal foods.  The plants that we grow today are a product of an agricultural lifestyle that is a mere 10,000 years old!  Before this our entire species was hunting and gathering for its subsistence!

It was as if this way of thinking provided the much needed balance to the extreme end of the nutritional spectrum to which I had swung.  By incorporating this information I was able to find an equilibrium, and was able to restore my health.

And so I began to open my worldview, and release the dissonance….  I began to eat animals, and I began to eat them without guilt.

This was a world of difference from the animals I had seen tortured on factory farms that I had seen all those years ago.  These were animals I could meet.  Farmers I could talk to.  Pieces of land that I could visit.

What struck me immediately was that I could actually go to the farms to get my calories.  I live in New England, so my Raw and Superfood Vegan diet had been based almost exclusively on exotic foods shipped all over from distant lands.  There were foods that I could get locally, some fruits and vegetables, but my calories, the stuff that really sustained me, seemed always to come from distant lands!  This was a less than comforting conclusion to reach, and one that most who eat a Raw Food diet are shy about looking at!

Now I could consume calories raised here where I live, sustainably.  This brought me a peace of mind that comforted me almost maternally.  It felt like I had been plugged back into the source, into the Mother Earth herself.

Now I could eat fats and protein that took me out of the blood sugar roller-coaster that I had been trapped in cyclically for so many years. I could finally have the lean body mass that I used too, and maintain the activity level that I knew I was capable of.  And finally, I was releasing the food Raw-ligion that I had bowed to for more than a decade and a half!

Actually, it was like coming back to life.  I don’t mean like waking up, I mean like coming back to the Life-Cycle.  Like leaving a virtual reality and coming back into Nature.  My days of eating the Raw Vegan diet was like living in a fantasy world.  I was totally ignorant of the scheme of life and to my place within it.

Where, after all, was my Raw Vegan food really coming from?  What fertilized the soils for my “organic” produce if not the manure of farm animals?  And if I wanted a truly vegan world, what then would fertilize the soils for my food?  Synthetic NPK derived ultimately from fossil fuels and natural gas…  What pollinated these Organic Vegan produce if not Factory Farmed Bees? Where did I think my food was coming from?  I guess I had not really considered it honestly.

During those last few years I had become very invested in Wild Food and Wild Water.  Through my studies of Herbalism I had created ElixirCraft, and began wild crafting herbs and mushrooms.  I had also become deeply passionate about Wild Spring Water and created Find a Spring.

With the inclusion of meats in my diet it just made sense…  I wanted to eat Wild Meat. I began to receive gifts of Wild Meat from hunters, and fishermen.  Many of the Fishes alvailable in markets are still wild as well, so these became staples.

I had come to the understanding that the bones and teeth of “primitive” Hunter/Gatherer societies are far more sturdy and dense than those of agriculturalists.  And that dental cavities were largely unknown to these so called “savages”.  That the “Natural Foods” we eat today are anything but.  That we are really eating hybrid foods, whether plants or animals, foods bred over the course of centuries, many of which cannot be found in nature anywhere today!

Just this year I was truly moved by the book The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability by Lierre Kieth.  Her story parallels my own in many ways, even down to the encounter with Weston Price’s book.  She laid out so beautifully how Vegetarianism is more than just destructive for our bodies, it is destructive to our eco-system.  Farming is what turned the fertile cresent into a desert, what turned the Nile Valley into sand dunes…  and remember, that was Organic Farming!  They did not have the “Commercial” or “Industrial” farming practices that we do today!

The most powerful conclusion of her book is this…  That the beginning of Adult Wisdom lays in accepting that something must Die for you to Live.  This is universally true for all humans…  We may put many layers of middle-men, of industry, of smoke and mirrors between us and this fact but eventually, to truly mature, we must embrace it.

With this Wisdom I was resolved to hunt my own meat, and to develop the relationship with the animals that this requires.  To see them face to face, from start to finish.

And so, I find myself on a Saturday in Maine, sitting in a Hunter Safety class.  Something I never expected, but I must admit, feels so good.  It is not the romanticized Hunters Initiation I would have dreamed of.  But it is something.  It is a start.  It is the beginning of true food soverinty and relationship to the web of food and cycle of life.

I am grateful to be here, and grateful to those who came before me.  Mostly I am grateful to the animals in body and spirit who give their lives to sustain the ecosystem and those of us who dwell within it.

I am humbled by the many years it took for me to arrive at this place, and the circuitous path I took to get here. And….  I am excited for the ancient Rite of the Hunt.

After the many years I invested as a Raw Food Vegan I cannot deny that I have gained much that is of value.  I learned, what I feel, is one of the true secrets of cleansing, and no doubt an important part of a healing path.  It offered me a path of transformation that I will cherish eternally.

Today I see it as a fast, as a cleanse.  I see it as something to do short term.

And I see it as something beautiful too… But for me its just not a diet to live on.

How about you? ~Daniel

  • Hungryforhealth
    Great writing, Daniel. Your story is VERY similar to mine, where it's so easy to get sucked into the dogma about eating raw vegan, and then the fanaticism kicks in. It just goes to show us that the mind can really get us into trouble sometimes, and even if your body is screaming at you about having a severe B12 deficiency, copper toxicity, high bloodsugar and protein catabolism, the mind will refuse to listen to it.

    I'm still going through issues of guilt when eating meat (as most past vegans do), but with the way you talk about the spiritual connection and how it's a cycle of life that every other creature is apart of, it puts it into perspective. And let's face it, you can't refute Weston Price's work. Ha, when I was at my most fanacital point as a vegan, all I could think about was the phrase "suffering only leads to suffering", therefore making any killing of an animal criminal. Man, the human mind can really drive a person crazy.

    Now the new mantra I say to myself all the time is, "nothing is ever black and white, there are only shades of gray."
  • I think most would agree that, Daniel Vitalis
    is at the very least interesting. I find him to be extremely
    knowledgeable, well researched and he brings up very good points. While
    reading his latest, I found I was consistently in agreement. It's
    almost as if he took the words from my mouth... only he was able to
    articulate them better than I. Although, I am not hunting my own food
    and I am still eating a vegetarian diet by choice, I do appreciate his
    honesty and work. He has a ton of experience and I think this shows
    throughout in his writings, videos and lectures.
  • Linkranz
    Thank you for sharing! Your honesty and self evaluation as well as your journey toward reality will enlighten others.
  • Imnos482
    Amazing article, thanks for posting.

    I also wanted to thank you for all the great cutting edge information you bring to everyone. It has really changed my life over the past few months. I quit everything and started a detox site (always been a powerful manifester). I was told you learn by teaching, so, there you have it, time to rock and roll.

    Here is my latest article, inspired by your Longevity Now speech (along with Len and David, who have been amazing to me). Perhaps we will look back at this article many years from now and laugh. It was not the beginning, but, A biginning.

    See you in OC soon,

    Eric
    http://www.detox-diet-and-heal...
  • Tori
    I read most all posts here and it's a bunch of humans arguing points.  If someone wants to pretend to be a primal caveman, have at it.  We've evolved as a species, if you want to remain in a cave regarding your health and global sustainability then go ahead, all I would ask is that he/she who wishes to eat meat, get off your *ss and go kill it yourself.  Look it in the face first, I dare you.  Yes I used to fish as a kid, even throwing them back was cruel as I think back on how we terrorized the poor things.  My family who ate meat are all dead of heart attacks, liver disease, cirrhosis (the one who died of this never drank at all), they were plagued with acidic conditions, gout etc.  My goodness, why did the Doc even tell my Grandfather to EAT CHERRIES  and FRUIT to combat his gout.  When he ate more fruit, the gout subsided.  I'm no angel or purist, ate meat most of my life because I was raised that way.   I was plagued with asthma, bronchitis, bursitis, cysts...Milk and dairy elimination ended my asthma issues (go figure) and I got rid of a huge cyst on my knee by fasting on only BANANAS AND ORANGES and of course lots of water.  My MD mainstream Doc was astonished, the cyst he held between his fingers was now simply gone. 

    Recently I had injuries and ailments I could not explain, I was dang near suicidal.  I'm young, I was athletic and now could barely get out of bed without horrible pain?   I went almost all VEGAN. Know what? I started this Aug 10, 2011, today is the 16th.  On the 12th of eating mostly fruits and additional greens and non starch veggies I am perfectly back to normal!  I used to eat ZERO sugar...I ate a lot of animal protein....OOPS.  I tried Atkins, big boo boo.  Yes it causes weight loss, but I want FITNESS and vitality.  To put this in perspective, I own wolves, they'll eat fruit and veggies! LOL They eat meat and thrive because they're designed to do so, they can digest and process it.  I as a human got horrid ulcers and acid reflux from eating meats, particularly red meats. Personally, I can only tolerate meats a few times a month, but that's me, my body, my issues. I hate when people immediately judge a person who goes vegan as some kind of whacko! LOL Do I not deserve to do what's best for me? Enough said.

    I totally agree with Daniel Vitalis about eating NON grocery store meats/fish, it's much better than steroid injected crap at the market.  I do still eat fish, or rather will finish up what's in my freezer.  I won't go cold turkey (Pun hehe) in becoming a full Vegan but I'm living proof that we need to have balance.  Since eating mainly sweet fruits and all veggies the past week I've lost pounds without any exercise at all, health problems are subsiding, I'm (for the first time in 4 years) getting back to cycling and weight training. I'm not against those who do eat meat, I may do so on occasion but haven't had the slightest taste for it.  I have 20 rescue animals, it's changed how I view commercial slaughter.  I'm no PETA activist or tree hugger, just a realist.  Meat eaters and Vegans shouldn't be fighting.  It's your life do what you like, but please stop trying to sell the B.S. that mass slaughter of animals is good for the planet and that eating meat and a few veggies, very little fruit is good for a human.  If you want to truly do as your ancestors did, then go out and hunt down your meals!  I know a guy who goes on pack trips with his mules and supplies all his own meats.  I hate the thought of killing a creature but whatever, it's his choice, he's humane about it, he's a Native American and I respect him. Let's try and respect each other no matter what our beliefs are :)
  • Theriddles
    Thanks for this post. In response to the recent mainstreaming fads of veganism (i.e. Oprah), I was looking to see if any ex-vegans had reservations about the high promises made. You explained all those and much, much more. And, scarily, I saw some of my friends in your descriptions of yourself, so I will be much much more mindful of their physical state and beliefs now. Thank you for informing me about the inner world of a true vegan/raw foodist.
  • Blakmira
    I wonder how many of the pro-hunting types on here catch the animal with their bare hands and bite into the animal's flesh raw, chewing through the bone?
    Oh, you mean you need weapons and tools and cooking methods to catch and eat if you can't stomach it raw? And then it takes up to 4 days for it to sit rotting in your intestines and colon before some of it passes through?
    Then guess what? You weren't meant to eat animals. They were not put here for you to stuff your face with, get off on their blood and death throes, and feel macho and superior to. Thou Shalt Not Kill -- ever heard of that?
  • Bradley
    Great post and insight Daniel! You are an inspiration!
  • Brian
    Interesting journey. Might we presume you are still on a journey and may yet discover and share more? Sustainability, protection, and perhaps advanced cultivation of wild foods and/or wild water. Spiritual aspects of harvesting wild animals and the effect on those humans who consume these animals. Knowing that all energy from plant and animal being a secondary/tertiary source, ways to obtain energy from the original source [ perhaps some here know of HRM http://solarhealing.com/ ]. Implications of the intake of ORMUS in conjunction with photon absorption, wild water, and personal meditation. The opportunities for learning are endless. We are all students and simply apply what we learn. Thank you for sharing what you have learned and providing an important perspective for those who are open and seeking balance in their learning.

    Brian
  • I appreciate your passion about speaking in favor of meat-eating, versus a vegan diet since it is your conviction that meat-eating is natural and essential. It's always good to express one's convictions. However, I must equally passionately express my conviction that some of your ideas are equally, if not even more dangerous, to children and adults alike.
    I for one nearly died when I was a child while on a ‘healthy, balanced’, high animal protein diet, along with plenty of vegetables and grains, nuts. All meats and fish, eggs, etc. came from farms that used no harmful feeds, nor did they use hormones and antibiotics, as it was not untypical 50 years ago. At age six I became increasingly ill on this diet. By age 12, I suffered juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, severe anemia (B12 deficiency-related), I passed out every 3-4 weeks, and developed a dangerous form of arrhythmia. My digestive system rejected almost every food I ate. I became severely undernourished, and also suffered from severe lymph edema. Doctors told my parents I had about one year to live.
    At that time, I began to study the human digestive system and tried out numerous ways and diets to help myself. Nothing had any impact. When I was about to give up, I heard of a German doctor who healed chronic debilitating illnesses like mine by telling them to become vegan/vegetarian. I changed my diet to vegan diet from one day to the next, although, mine wasn’t a raw food diet. I only ate salads and fruit in raw form, the rest of the food was cooked. The only food from an animal source was unsalted butter. Within 6 weeks, my arthritis, heart condition, edema and anemia were gone. Fainting spells became infrequent, and only occurred during my over 40 gallstone attacks, caused by all the years of eating meats, fish, eggs, cheese, and milk. Eventually, I developed and wrote “The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush” which since then has helped millions of people around the world, myself included, to regain their health. I never suffered another gallstone attack and have been perfectly healthy since. At age 57, my body is 20 years younger than it should be.
    In other words, your advice for parents and their children could be very risky for them. I don’t know what kind of vegan diet you followed, but I would argue that if it made you feel unwell, it wasn’t a balanced vegan diet. If it consisted of purely raw food, I may agree with you because I have seen quite a few sick, emaciated people on such diets. It is not easy to break down cell membranes of hard vegetables (cellulose) through mastication, and thereby make use of vitamins and enzymes in locked inside these cells. However, some individuals with a strong digestion and being of the Ayurvedic body type, Pitta raw food diet may work well.
    While I lived in the Mediterranean for 15 years in the Eighties and Early Nineties, fat intake was mostly from eating olive oil and butter, both which I recommends. I have never seen cholesterol problems among people who eat a Mediterranean vegan/vegetarian diet that includes olive oil and butter. Your statement that we need meat to fill our requirements for cholesterol is misleading. My cholesterol is perfect. I have helped hundreds of thousands of people restore their abnormal cholesterol values by going of meat.
    Take a look at Tonya Zavasta. Who can claim be look this radiant in their fifties, after decades on a vegan diet?
    http://www.beautifulonraw.com/
    http://www.rawfor30days.com/To...
    You are still a young man and I understand from my own experiences in life that having strong opinions about certain matters defines personality. But when you grow older, you see that everything has value, including a vegan diet for children, and eating meat as an adult. I have seen people on a meat diet develop cancers and the have spontaneous remissions when they stopped eating it. They then became an inspiration for many others to follow. They turned their calamity into a life’s purpose.
    In over 40 years of practicing natural medicine around the world, I have learned about the underlying mechanisms behind what makes people sick and what makes them healthy. So far, I haven’t not seen meat as being a health-promoting food. And studies support my belief. You may recall the large 2008 study by the National Institute of Cancer, conducted on 550,000 Americans: it found that regular meat consumption increases one’s risk of dying from all possible causes, including cancer, heart disease, diabetes, osteoporosis, etc, by a whopping 20 percent. I have never heard the same results about 550,000 people eating a vegan diet.
    You say that our ancestors were meat-eaters, and that’s why we should be meat-eaters, too. If you collect bones from the cold regions of the planet, you may be right. Since during the cold winter months there was no vegetation, there was also no food. Hunting of animals became a matter of survival. However, the largest numbers of people always lived near the equator where food scarcities almost never occurred. To get your theory right, you will to need exclude these people from it, but then this would also disprove it. You also need to account for the ice-ages and pole shifts, during which subtropical places like Siberia and the North Pole suddenly became freezing cold. The still uncover animals with tropical fruits in their mouth. They didn’t even have the time to swallow them. Many humans the in the now Northern hemisphere were now food deprived and hunting of animals became a necessity.
    I believe that each person needs to learn from their own experiences. It is good we share them with others, but not threaten them with “if you feed your children a vegan diet, this amounts to abuse”. Thank you for your otherwise enlightening piece and your amazing work your are doing for so many people.
    - Andreas Moritz
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    A professor of recreation management at Eastern Washington University, Barbara Brock is widely known for her innovative research into TV-free lifestyles. Articles about her work have appeared in Time magazine and in numerous other publications, including Parenting, Woman’s Day, Family Circle, and Good Housekeeping. Perhaps ironically, she has also been interviewed on the Today Show. For over two decades now, she and her family have lived happily without television.
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    Published: December 2, 2006 THE SATURDAY PROFILE
    Living Memories of Bound Feet, War and Chaos in China
    By JIM YARDLEY
    “We were a big collective at the time,” Mrs. Wang said of her region. “The people of all the different villages ate from the same pot.” Often, they ate weeds. “No one starved, but there were people who were hungry and got sick and died.”
    LAOSHIDAN, China
    AT ages 84 and 83, Wang Zaiban and Wu Xiuzhen are old women, and their feet are historical artifacts. They are among the dwindling number of women in China from the era when bound feet were considered a prerequisite for landing a husband. No available man, custom held, could resist the picture of vulnerability presented by a young girl tottering atop tiny, pointed feet. But Mrs. Wang and Mrs. Wu have tottered past vulnerability. They have outlived their husbands and also outlived civil war, mass starvation and the disastrous ideological experiments by Mao that almost killed China itself. In recent years, drought drove them out of the mountains of Shaanxi Province to this farming village beside the Yellow River in Inner Mongolia.
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    May 7, 2006
    A Hermit's Refuge Is Now a Writer's Muse By WARREN ST. JOHN
    FAIRHOPE, Ala. EVER since its founding in 1894 by a group of 28 utopian dreamers from Iowa, this quaint waterside town on the eastern shore of Mobile Bay has been a refuge for what Southerners politely call "characters."
    There was Craig Sheldon, a sculptor known for making fantastical creatures, like a wacky insect he called "head holding high hopper," and Winifred Duncan, a spinster who lived by the water with four bloodhounds and was regularly arrested for canoeing at night in the bay, naked. Strangest of all, perhaps, was an Idaho man named Henry Stuart, who moved to Fairhope in the 1920's, after being told by his doctor — incorrectly, it turned out — that he had only a year to live. Mr. Stuart, who wore a long white beard and became known locally as the Hermit of Montrose, after a neighborhood in Fairhope, built himself a small round hurricane-proof hut out of concrete and lived in it for 18 years, apparently certain he might die at any moment. Mr. Stuart eventually died at 88 in 1946, somewhere in Oregon. Today, Mr. Stuart's hut in Fairhope has become an odd sort of tourist attraction, a kind of temple to eccentricity and individualism, thanks largely to another Fairhope eccentric, a goateed man often seen in a seersucker suit riding around town on a Harley-Davidson: the novelist Sonny Brewer.
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    To get some perspective, look at “Huck’s Raft: A History of American Childhood” (2004), by Steven Mintz, a professor of history at Columbia. Mintz’s story begins with the beginning of the United States, and therefore he describes children with troubles greater than overparenting: boys dispatched to coal mines, and girls to textile mills, at age nine or ten. Mintz thinks that we worry too much, or about the wrong things.
    Despite general prosperity—at least until recently—the percentage of poor children in America is greater today than it was thirty years ago. One in six children lives below the poverty line. If you want an emergency, Mintz says, there’s one. ♦ November, 2008
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    November 21, 2010
    A Husband’s Chronic Illness Changes a Couple’s Life
    By JENNIFER MASCIA
    Priscilla Leontitsis first spotted her future husband, Nicolas, in 1989 at Oasis, a Greek restaurant in White Plains that he owned. She was a local choir director and soprano, and she had stopped in for dinner. “Out came this fellow, and I said, ‘Now, this is the most beautiful man I’ve ever seen,’ ” Ms. Leontitsis, who is 77, recalled. She did not approach him that night, nor on the several occasions she saw him around town. But one day she made it a point to stop in for a hamburger and introduce herself. He confided that his father had just died. She offered her condolences and, touched by the gesture, he asked if he could call her. “His father sent him to me,” Ms. Leontitsis said. They spent an hour on the phone, which she said was remarkable because she later discovered he was not a phone person. “He’s got a very loving heart,” she said, before collapsing in tears. Her husband, sitting beside her in a wheelchair, began to cry, too. “He never does this,” she said, sounding surprised.
    Mr. Leontitsis, 63, has not been able to work since 1999, when he first showed symptoms of multiple sclerosis. There was a fall in the street, then a persistent cough and numbness on the right side of his body. One day, he simply could not get out of bed. Since then, his wife has been caring for him.
    Multiple sclerosis, a disease in which the body’s immune system attacks the sheath around nerve cells, is marked by waves of illness, each of which advances the tide of disease until it incapacitates and ultimately kills. Like Alzheimer’s, M.S. has a relatively long onset, and there is no cure, only recovery after attacks. Last month, an attack put Mr. Leontitsis in the hospital and then a rehabilitation center in Ossining, N.Y. This last attack affected his facial nerve, so even the slightest brush of his cheek caused brutal pain. “It’s like having a nail hammered from inside out,” he said. “It hurts so much I can’t open my mouth.” Mr. Leontitsis grew up on Corfu, an island off the west coast of Greece. He made a living converting whaling ships into fishing fleets, a business that took him to Panama, Peru and Costa Rica. But he also worked at restaurants and attended cooking school. When he came to the United States, it was to work for an uncle in the restaurant business; soon he was pulling 20-hour days to open his own place. But last year, Mr. Leontitsis had to stop cooking at home, too, after a flare-up of his disease. Now, he said, he is seeking a collaborator for a cookbook, ideally one that would intersperse recipes and anecdotes from Greek life. Ms. Leontitsis supports the couple on her musician’s earnings of $14,000 a year and a combined $1,100 a month in Social Security benefits. They live on the second floor of a run-down rooming house in White Plains accessible only by a tall staircase, so Mr. Leontitsis, now using a wheelchair, must be carried to and from home. Ms. Leontitsis concedes that she is on the edge of poverty, but she said: “I don’t fancy myself Section 8. I’m 77. I’m able to work.” This independent streak prevented the couple from asking for help until recently, when they contacted a social worker at the Dominican Sisters Family Health Services, an affiliate of the Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of New York, one of the seven agencies supported by The New York Times Neediest Cases Fund. The organization placed Mr. Leontitsis in a Medicaid program that enables eligible clients with chronic illnesses to remain at home rather than move to a nursing home. With $350 from the fund, Mr. and Ms. Leontitsis were able to keep their phone connected. An additional $100 provided groceries. For Mr. Leontitsis, accepting charity is another sign his illness is winning. As he spoke about the foundation he once started that shipped food to Africa, Iraq and Afghanistan, he began weeping again. “Now I end up like this, not being able to do anything,” he said. “We’ve been through lots of stresses and strains,” Ms. Leontitsis interjected, placing a hand over his. “But there’s a heart connection. I was looking for a loving heart, and I found one.”
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    Law & Disorder: Couple, ages 97 and 66, killed by car identified
    They were crossing a Westside street on their way home from bingo.
    Posted: November 22, 2010 - 12:00am
    By The Times-Union
    The names of a Jacksonville couple killed when they were hit crossing 103rd Street on Saturday have been released by the Florida Highway Patrol. Nubark Nuhibian, 97, and his wife, Lillian J. Nuhibian, 66, were crossing the road at Harlow Boulevard about 6:30 p.m. when they walked into the path of a car driven by Elizabeth Jane Harmon, of Jacksonville, who was unable to stop in time, according to the Highway Patrol.
    Nubark Nuhibian was then struck by another vehicle. That driver left the scene and the police did not report if that person had been located Sunday. The two were on their way home from playing bingo at an area church, authorities told the Times-Union on Saturday.
    GROW OLD IN RURAL AREAS, DANIEL.
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    Aids rates for people of color, blacks & Hispanics are higher than any other race according to research and African-American Ron Christie, author & Janet Cohen, author on www.booktv.org. interview, November (2010) 1.2 million black men are in prison today.
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    In Plano, TX lifting champion, personal trainer (November 14, 2002), John Pettitt, 55 yr old motivational speaker died shortly after suffering heart attack while working out at Carpenter Recreation Center in Plano, family members said. Rescue workers tried to revive Mr. Pettitt after he collapsed on a treadmill Monday morning. He was taken to Medical Center of Plano, where he was pronounced dead at l pm. “It was a fairly normal morning, said his daughter, Jessica Pettitt of New York. He had his morning protein shake, his morning cereal and was working out before his first client.”
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    Finding the Deep River Within
    A Woman’s Guide to Recovering Balance and Meaning in Everyday Life $
    Seixas, Abby Jossey-Bass
    This gentle and practical guide will help women escape their to-do lists so that they can reconnect with the source of life and spirit, the Deep River of their inner lives. The author offers a step-by-step program that shows how to slow down and recover a sense of depth, balance, and meaning, providing women with practical ways to simplify their overscheduled lives and achieve greater satisfaction, find the spirit, the calmness, and wisdom that flows within them.
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    Dr. Cutler is a stunning Example of women today!
    May 28, 2007
    Lost Chances for Survival, Before and After Stroke By GINA KOLATA

    The result is that no more than half the people with high blood pressure have it under control, Dr. Cutler said. He estimated that half of all strokes could be prevented if people kept their blood pressure within the recommended range

    Dr. Diana Fite, a 53-year-old emergency medicine specialist in Houston, knew her blood pressure readings had been dangerously high for five years. But she convinced herself that those measurements, about 200 over 120, did not reflect her actual blood pressure. Anyway, she was too young to take medication. She would worry about her blood pressure when she got older. Then, at 9:30 the morning of June 7, Dr. Fite was driving, steering with her right hand, holding her cellphone in her left, when, for a split second, the right side of her body felt weak. “I said: ‘This is silly, it’s my imagination. I’ve been working too hard.’ ” Suddenly, her car began to swerve. “I realized I had no strength whatsoever in my right hand that was holding the wheel,” Dr. Fite said. “And my right foot was dead. I could not get it off the gas pedal.” She dropped the cellphone, grabbed the steering wheel with her left hand, and steered the car into a parking lot. Then she used her left foot to pry her right foot off the accelerator. She pulled down the visor to look in the mirror. The right side of her face was paralyzed. With great difficulty, Dr. Fite twisted her body and grasped her cellphone. Dr. Diana Fite, a 53-year-old emergency medicine specialist in Houston, knew her blood pressure readings had been dangerously high for five years. But she convinced herself that those measurements, about 200 over 120, did not reflect her actual blood pressure. Anyway, she was too young to take medication. She would worry about her blood pressure when she got older.
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    In a small book, entitled - Small Houses, the author writes on page 11: “Later, when I got bak to town and learned that it was built by a little lady in her eighties who loved nature and solitude. I realized that the art of building was not necessarily reserved for architects and builders. All that was needed, it seemed, was the will.”
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    Life of Hardship -- Elderly couple does without heat, running water
    December 15, 2004 Eric Garza The Monitor
    Eulalia Gonzalez said she has never had a merry Christmas. No Christmas tree, no lights, no presents — not even a family dinner. "We never had any of that stuff," Gonzalez said. "We would maybe sit together eating nopalitos." Her situation has not improved since she was a little girl in Veracruz, Mexico, nearly a century ago. At 93 years old, Gonzalez said her life has been one of hardship. "We have nothing; there’s no one who will go to the store for us or no one to visit. No one even comes near. I’m like a stranger here — and all these people are my family," Gonzalez said as she sat on a makeshift table outside her home Thursday afternoon. "The people who live around me are all relatives, but they never come by here," Gonzalez said.She said her only visitors are the Adult Protective Services caseworkers who check up on her, and a woman named Blanca who occasionally visits to take Gonzalez to the grocery store.
    "Sometimes I think it would just be easier on everyone if I just died," she said.
    Gonzalez said she constantly feels sick. Her head is always throbbing and her stomach feels like it’s been turned inside out, she said. Most recently an open sore on her foot has been added to her list of ailments.About 25 years ago, Gonzalez immigrated into the country illegally with José Conchola, a widower she had known for nearly 30 years.The two found their way into the northern end of Mission where Conchola built a small house for the two to live in along Victory Street.The house, a 10-by-10-foot room with just enough space for a bed and dresser, is where the two have lived ever since."My whole life I’ve been made to suffer," she said. "I don’t even have hot water to wash." Even her bed, the one comfort she had in her home, has added to the hardships in her life.She said the mattress is starting to show its age as the bedsprings are starting to poke through.The green house is situated behind several other dwellings in the neighborhood.At first glance, most passersby would likely assume the structure is a storage shed or a tool room.Conchola used whatever materials were available to complete the house. The roof is a mixture of shingles, plywood and even scrap pieces of carpet used to cover holes.
    The nails holding the roof together poke through to the inside of the house.
    Luckily, both Gonzalez and Conchola are small enough to miss the nails jutting through the low ceiling. The house has no electricity. The power needed for the light bulb that hangs in the bedroom is supplied through an extension cord that runs from the neighbor’s house. Conchola, now 84, has since built two small additions, a bathroom and a kitchen. The bathroom is between the bedroom and the kitchen. The room has a ceiling that hangs less than six feet high and has just enough space for a toilet and mirror. There is no bathtub or shower. Instead, Gonzalez and Conchola use an aluminum tub to bathe.When it’s not in use, it rests against the bathroom wall.The bathroom is separated from the bedroom on one side by a bedsheet tacked over the makeshift doorway.It is separated from the kitchen on the other side by a screen door.Conchola said he would continue fixing up the house if he were able, but his age has made the work a burden he can no longer bear. His failing eyesight has even made shaving an impossible task.Conchola now wears a scruffy beard after he grew tired of cutting himself every time he tried to shave.Charitable acts for the couple, though appreciated, have not always worked out. Last month, a school group donated a turkey to Gonzalez and Conchola for Thanksgiving. But the two were forced to give the turkey away to a neighbor because they had neither the physical energy to prepare it nor a refrigerator to store it. Though there are a million things that could help bring a little cheer to Gonzalez and Conchola, there’s only one thing Gonzalez can think of that she would like to receive.It’s not new clothes or a refrigerator with some food inside it.It’s not a bathtub or some badly needed home repairs and improvements. Even though the two would benefit from all these things, there’s only one thing Gonzalez could think of."A bed," Gonzalez said. "The one I have is no good. When you lay down on it, you can feel the springs poking you."
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    I just had to share this with you Daniel and readers,
    “We have a long way to go to make peace with this planet, and with each other. We took a wrong turn when we launched the Neolithic revolution. We have been trying every since to ascend from nature instead of to Nature. It is not too late for us to come around , without losing the quality of life already gained, in order to receive the deeply fulfilling beneficence of humanity’s natural heritage. Part of the dilemma is that while most people around the world care about the natural environment, they don’t know why they care, or why they should feel responsible for it. By and large they have been unable to articulate what the stewardship of Nature means to them personally. This confusion is a great problem for contemporary society as well as for future generations. It is linked to another great difficulty, the inadequacy of science education, everywhere in the world.” (pg. 13)
    The Creation: An Appeal to Save Life on Earth: Books
    by Edward O. Wilson Publisher: W. W. Norton (September 5, 2006)
    “Meanwhile, the modern technoscientific revolution, inducing especially the great leap forward of computer-based information technology, has betrayed Nature a second time, by fostering the belief that the cocoons of urban and suburban material life are sufficient for human fulfillment. This is an especially serious mistake. Human nature is deeper and broader than the artifactual contrivance of any existing culture. The spiritual roots of homo sapiens extend deep into the natural world through still mostly hidden channels of mental development.”
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    I am Pro-Local
    Pro-Diversity
    Pro-Small
    Pro-earthworm
    "When imagination works, everything works!"
    (Bachelard, 1884-1962)
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    The Best is in the West
    While it is true that hot springs exist in many places east of the Great Plains—Hot Springs National Park in Arkansas is one of the best examples—geothermal energy is far more abundant in the western states, and that is where most of the U.S. geothermal development is taking place. The western concentration of the geothermal resources in the U.S. results from the “youth” of the landscape, indicated in part by the abundance of mountains and faults located there. While most people fearfully link faults only to earthquakes, when it comes to geothermal energy, they are our “friends”. Faults are welcome because they provide pathways for hot waters to reach closer to the surface. Without these faults, it could be too deep to tap. In some places such as Hawaii and Iceland, faults are numerous and volcanic activity evident.
    I LOVE LIVING IN RURAL ARKANSAS.
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    From suburban homeschooling to rural living by Denice Dible, Milroy, Pennsylvania, Pg. 42 of the Countryside & Small Stock Journal, Jan.Feb. 2011 writes:
    Five years ago, we moved 700 miles north and brought an old, renovated farmhouse on a couple of acres on the side of a mountain. When we still lived in a subdivision, our days were spent primarily going to organized activities, the grocery store and Target, fast food establishments with indoor play lands, or playgrounds. Spending time outside on our ¾ acre lot consisted of swimming, playing on our jungle gym or in the playhouse or watching Dad work in our small garden patch. If we wanted more nature, we had to drive to public gardens, woods, or a state park. Most of our activities cost money for admission, lessons, food, and gasoline. It was difficult to find education or enriching activities to do that were free.
    Our children now spend their days growing plants and harvesting and eating fresh produce, tending the animals, fishing in the creek and pond, hiking up the mountain and exploring the woods. They are kneading dough and baking bread, using fractions while following recipes, reading library books under our forsythia bushes, swimming in the pool, finding constellations in the clear night sky, examining tadpoles and insects, and concerning with our Amish neighbors about our different ways of ding things. Our homeschooling and our homesteading blur together as our way of life. Our days are full and rich.
    Dew, barefootin’, drinking wild water
    Rural south central 'sunny' Arkansas
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    February 11, 2006
    J. P. Donleavy Approaches 80, Anything but Gingerly By BRIAN LAVERY
    He carries himself with a youthful energy and says he is "embarrassed" about becoming an octogenarian because people will expect him to shuffle along with a hunched back. Instead, he jumps out of his armchair to demonstrate that he can kick his legs into a near-vertical split and throw lightning-quick punches (seven in one second, he said). "I was organically raised from childhood," he said. "I was never allowed to eat white bread or drink Coca-Cola and have always stayed in shape, because I trained as a boxer."
    MULLINGAR, Ireland, Feb. 6 — A crumbling mansion, centuries old, sits amid rolling fields on the outskirts of this market town. It looks uninhabited, its windows blank behind heavy wooden shutters. But inside, a sprightly old man lives alone, tending overgrown gardens, playing the piano and occasionally casting an eye over the cows that roam his wild estate's 180 acres.
    By his own admission, he ventures through the rusting gates at the edge of the property only once or twice a month. After more than 30 years here, he has never met his neighbors and does not want to. But sometimes even the most tenacious recluse succumbs to the temptations of the outside world. J. P. Donleavy, the American author who skyrocketed to international fame half a century ago with "The Ginger Man," his debut novel, remains a cult figure in Ireland, the country that has provided the setting for much of his work, and one that clings fondly to its literary celebrities — especially the notorious ones. Now, two months before his 80th birthday, Mr. Donleavy is back in the limelight. After several abortive efforts, a promising attempt is under way to make a film version of "The Ginger Man," starring Johnny Depp and directed by Laurence Dunmore, who recently worked with Mr. Depp on "The Libertine." Mr. Donleavy is in negotiations to sell his papers — described as one of the most comprehensive archives in contemporary letters — to a university. And the New York-born author, who trained as a painter before he began writing, just unveiled a 60-year retrospective of his artwork at a Dublin gallery. "This is a kind of rough period," he said with a smile, surveying the grounds around Levington House during an interview this week. "I'm always trying to hide. I don't go out in the world, I'm never seen." Until recently, he said, he had "lost my ability of dealing with people at all." Despite his claims to be an ascetic outsider, Mr. Donleavy enthusiastically welcomes visitors and relishes the chance to regale them with stories about his past. He carries himself with a youthful energy and says he is "embarrassed" about becoming an octogenarian because people will expect him to shuffle along with a hunched back. Instead, he jumps out of his armchair to demonstrate that he can kick his legs into a near-vertical split and throw lightning-quick punches (seven in one second, he said). "I was organically raised from childhood," he said. "I was never allowed to eat white bread or drink Coca-Cola and have always stayed in shape, because I trained as a boxer."
    THIS IS AN EXCELLENT TRUE STORY. I LOVED IT. DANIEL, IS THIS YOU AT AGE 80?
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    Woodswoman: Living Alone in the Adirondack Wilderness [Paperback]
    Anne LaBastille (Author) Somewhere, deep in the wild heart of the Adirondack Mountains, Anne LaBastille is writing a story. It is a story of the six million acres of untrammeled wilderness that surround her; a story of solitude and hair-raising hardship; a story of personal sacrifice and achieving a dream. It is the story of her life. It's taken her a long time to write it. Almost thirty years, in fact, and she's not stopping now.
    It all began in 1954, when she and her husband, with whom she'd managed a busy Adirondack resort, decided to separate. Anne LaBastille needed a place to live. Instead of doing what most people would do and rent an apartment or house, she decided to pursue her lifelong dream of living alone in the wilderness. There was no better place to start looking than right around her, in the Adirondack Park, which covers more area than any other national or state park in the United States. Anne LaBastille, who was born in New York City, fell in love with the Adirondacks during a three-day hiking trip when she was eighteen. Even though about half the park is state land, preserved as "forever wild" since 1894, LaBastille was able to find twenty acres of private land for sale, accessible only by boat or foot. It was here that Anne LaBastille and two local carpenters built her first log cabin. The entire process, from hauling the timber across the lake to installing doors and windows, was a trial of her wit and perseverance. Once the cabin was complete, her new lifestyle, devoid of electricity, indoor plumbing, and human companionship, presented her with a different set of trials: what would she do in an emergency situation? How would she keep her food fresh, and her cabin warm? How could she learn to live harmoniously with the active wildlife around her? Would she get lonely? Anne LaBastille managed not only to acclimate to her rigorous new lifestyle, but to write a best-selling memoir about her experience, Woodswoman. (This book is a classic since the late 1970s, and is a stirring memoir of a home life with a dramatic difference. I loved re- reading every bit of it here in my cabin in rural Arkansas last year.)
    Anne left behind the ‘hustle, bustle, and strain of managing summer guests, staff, eight cottages, a dining room, fourteen fireplaces, a dozen hotel rooms, horses, boats, salesmen, chefs and bakers”, and plunged headlong into a real hands on life, living alone on the shores of a remote lake in a twelve-foot by twelve foot log cabin she built herself and which backed onto the six million acres of the Adirondack Forest Preserve.
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    Published: Friday, January 18, 2008
    German teen sent to Siberia
    The program aims to reform his violent tendencies.
    Associated Press
    FRANKFURT, Germany -- A troubled German teen is spending nine months in remote Siberia as part of efforts to turn him away from violence, officials said Thursday. The 16-year-old had been diagnosed as "pathologically aggressive" for behaving violently in school and attacking his mother, said Stefan Becker, head of the youth and social affairs department in the central German town of Giessen. The teen agreed to take part in a program to send troubled youth to Siberia to reform in "a somewhat unusual measure, even for us," Becker said. The German teen sent to Siberia has been living in the village of Sedelnikovo, some 190 miles from Omsk, for six months, accompanied by a Russian-speaking supervisor. He is now attending classes at a nearby school, Becker said. An official who visited the teen last month to check on his progress reported back that "it seems as if (the plan) is working," he said. "Siberia is very low on excitement and contacts," Becker said. "If he doesn't hack wood, his place is cold. If he doesn't get water, he can't wash."Becker said he could recall only two similar cases over recent years but an organization representing youth help groups, AGJ, said some 600 serial offenders from Germany are currently taking part in programs outside the country. Youth services are experimenting with so-called "intensive educational experiences abroad" amid bad-tempered debate in Germany over how to tackle youth crime. Roland Koch, a senior member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats who is the governor of the state of Hesse, has seized on youth crime in his bid to win re-election in state elections coming up Jan. 27. Earlier this month, Merkel's party called for tougher action against young criminals. It has challenged the center- left Social Democrats -- a coalition partner in the federal government but an opponent in the upcoming state elections -- to consider tougher laws that would range from higher sentences to easier expulsion of immigrant offenders.
    GREAT article, Daniel V.
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    In the Soviet Union, When Food Was Scarce, Hope Could Still Be Nourished
    By DWIGHT GARNER
    A MOUNTAIN OF CRUMBS
    By Elena Gorokhova Illustrated. 308 pages. Simon & Schuster. $26.
    The title of Elena Gorokhova’s new memoir, “A Mountain of Crumbs,” about growing up in the Soviet Union in the 1960s and ’70s, comes from a game her grandmother invented to hide that she had almost no food to put on the table. She’d break up a slice of black bread and a cube of sugar on a plate and say to the crying child: “Look at how much you’ve got. A whole mountain of crumbs.”

    The family had to work to keep itself in more than bread, butter and borscht. There are lovely accounts of how, at their crumbling dacha outside of Leningrad, they’d make jam, fish in the Gulf of Finland and forage for mushrooms, anything to round out their meager diets.
    Way to go Daniel!!!!!
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    The nuclear cloud that still hangs over Chernobyl
    (2006) SHILAN GRIGOVNA hobbles about her vegetable patch, leaning heavily on a brown walking stick. She is 76 years old and short, and breathes with difficulty as she proudly points stubby, gnarled fingers at her potatoes, garlic, onions and tomatoes, all recently planted. She smiles toothlessly, her face wizened, and speaks in a barely comprehensible mix of Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian.
    "We grow these - tomatoes, potatoes, onions, everything we need. The soil is good, like it always has been, and we fish in the river," she says. "We have some chickens, but we used to have more animals before the disaster: geese and goats. All the animals died then." Like thousands of Ukrainian-Belarusian peasants, Shilan and her cousin Salitona spend the spring and summer days cultivating their plots, and the long winter in hibernation in their dilapidated cottage living off pickled fruits and vegetables. At 76 she has outlived her sons, both of whom died less than two years ago, six months apart. Both were in their early 40s, and both died of cancer-related illnesses. Shilan lives in Parishev, a village of a dozen people 15 minutes' drive from the No. 4 reactor of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, in one of the most contaminated places on the planet. Next Wednesday it will be 20 years ago that the core of the No. 4 reactor exploded, spewing radioactive gases all over northern Ukraine and southern Belarus, in the worst nuclear catastrophe in history. It killed 30 immediately, has ruined the lives of thousands in the former Soviet Union, and changed those of millions forever. About 16,000 people still live in Chernobyl, a town just on the edge of a 10-kilometre danger zone. Most are involved in dismantling the other four nuclear reactors that were shut down in 2000. Others work at the site of the stricken No. 4 reactor, where radiation levels continue to reach dangerously high levels. The original accident that led to two steam explosions and a larger hydrogen explosion in the core of the reactor was caused by a combination of human error and significant design flaws. The inexperienced operators carried out a risky experiment to see if the reactor could be shut down without electricity, which powers the emergency shutdown systems. A design flaw triggered a steam explosion in the reactor core, and the operators worsened the situation through their lack of nuclear knowledge.
  • Rocco Hill
    Man, i know this will likely not be read by anyone, but Daniel i've been watching you orate on certain matters and you are highly inspirational. I have nothing against vegans or frutarians, but eating a high fruit diet(and it's accompanying fructose) has dire long term consequences. Matt Lalonde has interesting thing to say on this matter. Anyway, you are a very engaging orator. Stay humble, stay true. Cheers dude.
  • I have to say, I used to see your picture or a video of yours and start laughing and pointing. I thought you were the most ridiculous person in the world, but I have a new respect for you. I'm not saying that I agree with what you're saying, and I enjoy my fruit-based high-raw vegan diet, but I will no longer be as militantly rude as I used to be. Interesting story. Thank you.
  • Jennifer Nishimura
    Daniel! You are so inspirational. NOT! You should be ashamed. You are providing information that suits your best interest. aka to get rich. If people want to buy into your crap then I guess they deserve what ever happens to them. You never back any of your statements up with science. Pretty much everything you say is subjective. P.S Read The china study. You can check it out from the library.
  • Drold
    Where is your science? I read the China Study it is poorly designed has very little control of important independent variables and is on CHINESE! Meaning if your not Chinese there is little carry over to you. There is something called bio-chemical individuality. There is no scientific debate about variability in the human systems that is a fact and it is based off my next statement. There is no debate about the fact that humans and animals adapt to their environment meaning that different geographical areas have different people with different genetics that have adapted to different foods. There is no such thing as a one-size-fits all nutritional approach that will ever work. In fact that is why they work for some and don't for others. Another obvious observation: What kind of fur coat to you grow? So what did your ancestors wear? It wasn't a leave. Come on the overwhelming science is out there. Debate any of this I dare you. You would just as well debate against 2+2=4.
  • Ramiel Barsoum
    Daniel, I have been revisiting all your blog articles, and I would like to put out there that this post is essential for anyone that has done raw fooding for an extended period of time (and those considering it as well). You share your experience from your heart genuinely here, and I felt it resonate with my own experience (although not nearly as long on the vegan/raw path as you). Thank you for empowering me in the field of health and nutrition, we look forward to having you in Dallas again soon!
  • Fantastic post! I just found your site and am so inspired.
    Thank you for courageously sharing all that you have learned!
  • Tahir Zniber
    Hi Daniel,
    Thank you for sharing your journey with food and all your awesome insights, you truly are an inspiration. I was vegan for 2 years and half, with a few months spent 100% raw. A month ago I switched from a mind based diet (and all the theories of why raw vegan is better) to a heart based diet, where i can listen to my body and feel what I really need. I helped the mind to make the shift with readings on why eggs/dairy/meat is healthy ☺ . I first integrated eggs and raw dairy, I later integrated fish, and am now adding chicken, and all kinds of wild / grass fed meats. The result is I feel much better, stronger, more grounded, and i feel my whole body is repairing and rebuilding.
    By the way, I deeply connect with your concept of shamanic nutrition. I should be getting your educational materials soon :-)
    Many blessings to you,
    Love,
    T
  • Tcavan
    I feel that anyone who would harm an animal is highly insensitive. I'm sure my ancestors did it but I would expect that the word evolution would come into play here.I think you are a macho jerk and are very nonevolved, spiritually.
  • Annemarie
    This farm in maine, would they ship their meats to Canada?
  • Annemarie
    I agree with Daniel. I was raw and found it was a great way to cleanse but after a while my body felt like it was missing something. Now I am rebuilding my body with animal fats and proteins and I feel great!!
  • Dove
    Ah, can't read 'em all -- such a provocative topic/thread. I just wanna say that Daniel Vitalis is one of my new heroes. Honest and courageous in speaking out about this. When we're steeped in it, it is so hard to see clearly. But he did, he's seeing the truth and, for the benefit of others, is sharing it. His story reads a lot like my own (except not sure I'd ever do the raw meat thing). A brochure from that most radical group PETA, being the impetus for my shift to vegetarianism (the horrifying treatment of a cow -- made me angry). And I also got to a point where it seemed there was nothing I could eat, a reflection of the crazy we create when endeavoring to override the wisdom of Nature.

    Vegetarianism/veganism is a starvation diet, plain and simply (perhaps there's a small percentage where this isn't the case). I'm discovering that many blend into this way of eating as a spin-off from anorexic behavior -- like I did. I see it on a whole other level. It's like we're starving ourselves (subconsciously) out of a sense of guilt, not truly wishing to live in a world with such prolific pain and suffering. Who are we to live, to enjoy being alive, while all of this is happening? Again, I see it as insanity, this endeavor to extract ourselves from the circle of life, to consider ourselves higher in wisdom than whatever set this circle in place. There's no life without this circle... The other day I saw a vegetarian comment on another site, responding to "what about animals eating animals?" Hard not to laugh at "they don't know any better." :)

    I adore animals, Nature, and I can't honestly say that I could kill an animal. But I feel that's more about societal conditioning; other animals don't have issue with participating in this circle of life. I know when I ate meat (chicken) for the first time (not that long ago) after being vegetarian for several years, it was like my body gave a palpable sigh of relief. A returning home, to what I am. It was so good. I wont apologize for being what I am, nor would/should a lion. I don't see myself as any different. Not above or below, just part of the circle.

    Death is an unquestionable necessity for this reality. If we could overcome our fear of it, accept it as just a "doorway" to another experience, not an ending...as well as knowing our own precious value, the value of all life... Native Americans, they just seemed to inherently understand this. They loved the buffalo, but they still ate it. That wasn't disrespectful but actually respectful of Nature. I pause in thankfulness for everything I consume.

    Thanks Daniel V., I think you're awesome :)

    Dove
  • livingawesome
    Is it safe to eat raw pork?
  • Malena
    A very interesting read. I also appreciate "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" as it is such a fantastic historical read on how mankind has leart how to build a truly robust physic and mind...however you need some insights into shamanism, then you will have no difficulties on the thought of thriving on other species flesh.

    I'd like to comment the problem with feeding a 7 billion population with (partly) animal food. In Sweden a 100 or more years ago, a pig could sustain a family for several months, simply becaue all the parts of the animals were used. Though 7 billion is a problem whether on animal or plant food, I think we could do far more with the food we have.

    What is truly amazing is our ability to adapt to different environments, climates and food. And this is not because of us, our bodies, but the enormus amount of bacteria in our gut, more than all of the cells in our bodies, that help us digest the food. So if we try to track the way we should eat via our genes and DNA we would actually have to track the genes of all the various bacteria as well.

    But no matter how much we could research on these tanglible physical facts, that would never be enough. I have an identical twin sister and though we have grown up together and largely have been exposed to the same environment, we thrive on slightly different diets. This isn't something that has happened now as grown ups but was visible already when we were small kids, although we didn't think about it. I have (and had as a kid) a propensity towards constipation when food becomes to "heavy" whereas my sister can tolerate more heavy foods. So here your personality and mental attitude influence what you need. And I would also like to add your past lives as I firmly believe (as do the majority of the worlds 7 billion people and we cannot all be stupid and delusionized) that this is not the first time that I have been walking on this earth. My personality is based on my past life experiences and they definitely differ from my sister's (advice: do some regression analysis, there are good books that can guide you).

    There's a scientific debate on what forms your personality, or to what degree it is determined by the environment vs your genes. And all the time there has been this third factor that is so obvious I'm surprised how it excapes everyone. Just ask some twins. However, because of the unfortunate reductionist trend in science that has been ongoing since the industrial revolution, we are still lost in the details and cannot grasp the whole. As an individual the best thing I suppose you can do is to understand that you are individual and, and this is something I heard on a recording of a Daniel Vitalis lecture that I think is a great motto, not be 100% anything.

    Cheers,
    Malena
  • Ryan Janki
    I was diagnosed with asthma when I was 4. spent a total of apx. 1.5 years in a hospital in my 32 year life with bronchial pneumonia, allergenic attacks, major eczema outbreaks, and the frequent asthma attacks). Since my 28th year I was on the raw food diet, and found some relief- which only lasted three years. I has a major candida out break last year which almost killed me. I had to really 'check myself before I recked myself'. I moved out to western Canada during my raw foodism and was surrounded by nature. During battling my candida battle, I met a natropathic doctor unlike most I met in back home in the big city, (Toronto), he laughed when I told him about my plant based raw food diet. He said thats great for cleansing, but long term, will harm me. He then proceeded to ask me about my energy level, and asked to see my teeth. Almost 6 months later, a couple of visits and and a new lifestyle, I feel better, look heather and have weight I can keep on my body. As a general contractor, sometimes you got to get in there with your staff and get dirty, and lift things when people can't. I feel stronger than ever, and can see my body growing (yes at 32!) I'm not a white collar dude like most you guys and don't have lengthy university degrees that allow fancy letters behind my name, and cannot write as eloquent either. However, I have more focus at work, look great, and my new 'natural diet' or 'natural lifestyle' has helped my body come into being. Raw wild berries from my forrest/garden, fresh local produce when I can get it, and wild deer/moose, grass feed buffalo/bison and sashmi . Thankyou so much Daniel for saying what you did. My yoga instructor has been making me feel guilty for months as I have a Brahmin genetic lineage. I just feel right now. And my allergies are almost non-exsistant, my sleep is deeper and your herbal tonics/shakes are a daily routine. My wife and I are currently increasing our acreage from our humble 25ac to 50 soon. I like to look throw my lil forrest for food as well as hunt local food as well. Thank you for taking a big wieght of my shoulders. Anytime your in the Alberta/Sask border area during your travels drop by!
    ryanjanki@hotmail.com
  • Chandra
    Hi Daniel,

    I'm glad to encounter you/your story.
    I don't like the "labels"; I simply do my best to pay attention to my body to see what IT is saying I need. And presently, it is saying "No animal products."

    I applaud you for finding your way through the maze of all these chemical and scientific terms scientists and allopaths throw around; proclaiming what EVERYBODY needs to be "healthy." Though I don't consume animal products, I hold no judgement in your discovery in needing to consume animal products. One can only control HIS/HER needs and preferences. Judging is at best, a total waste of time and energy.

    I'm happy to FINALLY run into somebody who realizes soy, wheat, corn and most everything we consume -- whether it's from an industrial farm or "certified organic" -- is UNNATURAL; HYBRID, and therefore devoid of nutritional value. I supplement my diet with NATURE-MADE PLANTS that I forage for (and I know YOU know what I mean) whenever possible.

    You made a lot of important points that resonate with me; doesn't mean I'm gonna run out and eat some flesh, but the remote possibility came up, it would necessarily be from so-called "wild" sources, because eating the meat & milk products of the domestic cow we're all so familiar with (a HYBRID between a buffalo and a yak) is inferior to a buffalo, for example (a natural animal) -- regardless to whether it has been "grass-fed" and "free-range."

    As I said, I don't particularly desire eating animal products; too acidic for my biology. But I'm glad you found your happy balance! Best! C.
  • Josema
    Excellent writing Daniel! I love the way you "tell" your growing awareness toward a more logical approach to right nutrition. It just makes sense man. Congrats on taking the many paths, all learning processes for who you are today.
  • me
    i am suprised that the nutrients in semen, human breast milk, womens orgasmic fluids have not been brought up...

    any thoughts or information?
  • hollypeckskamp
    All of these comments were quite amazing and as I continue on this path so much becomes so clear. I have recently read molecules of emotions by Candace Pert. In a nutshell she discusses the second nervous system which is comprised of mini minds so just as we all suspected the information in the body is bidirectional not just from the brain. There was an amazing study done with a specific group of worms and much like pavlov's work, they were shock after a bright light was flashed. After a short period they began to coil in efforts to deflect the shock. This group of worms was fed to a larger group and this group profoundly did the same thing (coil), proving that the memory of each cell goes far beyond this life. In this discussion, the spiritual undertaking of eating meat with respect would propel you to a new found conscious awareness of balance and respect. I too have recently struggled with a vegetarian diet and with my craving for sugar I can only suspect what growth of fungus or mold is occurring. During these times, it is so important to follow what the body really needs intuitively as the answers are all within, instead of trying to follow dogmatic theories. We all ebb and flow by design so if we truly were operating out of a higher conscious space then all would be in balance. I love how much passion was shared in each post...blessings to you all!! Daniel I remember this person you spoke of in your 20's...how awesome life inspires!!
  • There seems to be a lot of debate over this. I have one thing to say "The Ringing Cedars" . I wonder if you know what that is or if you have read it, Daniel?

    As for unethical vegan farming...what about permaculture? Don't you know about forest gardens? And veganique farming? There are so many wild foods that we can "forage", and gather. I wouldn't take the life of another animal...our consciousness is to evolve. Can you do it?
  • Andre
    Hi Daniel,

    Thank you for sharing your experience. I am learning about how we are not only what we eat, but HOW we eat. Like you said, the time of 'ism's is over... I feel better about my choices now, and ultimately that is the only way we can move forward, with an acceptance of what we are experiencing in the present moment, rather than a depressing of experience, thought, feeling.

    You are Inspiring!

    Blessings,
    Andre
  • Prince Charles
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    Reptilian Body Snachas!

    Raw Humans are the most nutritious addition to any Reptilians' diet.
    I prefer to torture & rape my food first, it circulates the blood-stream and makes all the vitamins & nutrients in proper suspension for greater absorbation.
    I got my Earth-hunting permit for earth when I visited Draco, but now i also helped to set up a free-range underground prison with the help of FEMA. This way I can be sure that they are eating a good diet free of Genetically Modified Organisms.
    Underground birthing centers are also a good option if you want the fresh meat, but it is alot of work. I get help from the Moosad in that department.
  • Dick Cheney
    Hi Daniel,
    I am glad you have found out about the benefits of Red Meat? You know there also Spiritual Properties to Cannibalism? Many indigenous people swear by it? I think in order for in to have more of a spiritual effect, it is better to slaughter your prey in front of an alter of Satan and drink the blood instantly while it is still fresh and raw...
    I am so tired of this Veggie religious dogma that does not see the “oneness” of everything. There is no difference in slicing the throat of a baby Dolphin as there is pulling a carrot out of the ground! Killing innocent animals is a great way to cummune with nature. (Just watch your aim when hunting with friends!)
    If you ever want to come out to visit me and my friends in July for Bohemian Grove, we have some great blood drinking ceremonies (Some wild meat & some babies) with major world leaders. We need a rest from planning wars and poisoning the population now and then...good fun with the big boys! We even have some shapeshifting lizards that join us now and then for the blood orgy..loads of fun.
    Just remember, what goes around, might not come around, so enjoy your senses, this world is for your exploitation!
    ----------------------------------

    This review is from: The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability

    Keith does raise some valid points, for example, that all agriculture is environmentally destructive, and that even in the production of vegan foods, some animals die (due to habitat destruction, pollution, insecticides, etc.) However, the fact remains that a hunter-gatherer lifestyle could support only a small fraction of the people alive today–what does she propose happens to the rest? Agriculture is necessary, and raising plants takes up much less land (and other resources) than raising animals. (Keith incorrectly claims that either synthetic fertilizers or animal products are necessary to fertilize crops; she is evidently unaware of veganic (aka stock-free organic) agriculture.

    I laughed out loud when I read Keith’s argument that killing a grain of rice is equivalent to killing a cow (so vegans are taking many more lives than meat-eaters). Can she really believe this? Can anyone?

    Her nutrition section is appalling. She doesn’t just advocate eating meat, she believes it is healthiest to eat large quantities of meat and other kinds of animal fat. She alleges that the reams of scientific research showing the hazards of animal products can’t be trusted because the scientific journals are sponsored by corporate interests. (ALL of them? And their motivation for skewing studies in favour of vegan whole foods is….?) This doesn’t stop her from citing studies when she thinks they support her argument. She says that epidemiological studies are not to be trusted, yet she leans heavily on the work of Weston Price, comparing the health of peoples around the world. Based on this work, she claims that hunter-gatherers all have wonderful health and this is due only to their diet. What about a more physically active lifestyle? What about all the ill and disabled people who can’t survive as hunter-gatherers, but are able to survive thanks to the fruits of civilization?

    Keith also assumes that her experiences as a vegan (chronic indigestion, amenorrhea, constant fatigue, etc.) are typical. Having been a vegan for many years, and knowing many other vegans, I know that they are not typical (and peer-reviewed research bears that out). There are vegans who eat unbalanced diets and develop problems for that reason; there are also many health problems that are unrelated to diet. Keith admits that she never discussed her diet with a doctor (who could have assessed if she really was suffering nutritional deficiencies) or a registered dietician (who could have assessed her diet and suggested changes if it was not adequate). Her belief that veganism caused her health problems is based on the recommendation of an alternative medicine practioner. Although she claims that she feels better on a meat-based diet, she also still has health problems, supposedly due to the “damage” done by her vegan diet. Maybe diet has nothing to do with her health problems at all?

    Her recommendations are:
    - don’t have children (I agree the human population is too high, but I think having one or two children is not unreasonable)
    - don’t drive a car (a great idea, if you are able-bodied and not obliged to live in an area where other forms of transportation are not available)
    - grow your own food

    This last recommendation is especially surprising given her opposition to agriculture. Are millions of tiny back-yard farms really better for the environment than a few large efficiently run farms? She doesn’t explain how growing your own food is better than getting someone else to do it. Sure, if you already have a backyard, growing food is a better use than just leaving it as lawn, but what about all the people who currently live in aparment buildings? Does it really help the environment for all of them to move to the suburbs or countryside so they can become part-time farmers? And how are all these people living in the country supposed to get around without cars?

    So while Keith does make some valid points, this book is rife with errors of fact (especially in the nutrition section), full of errors in logic and self-contradictions, and offers little in the way of practical advice for ameliorating the problems she discusses.


    http://www.ecologos.org/instin...
  • Dick Cheney
    Hi Daniel,
    I am glad you have found out about the benefits of Red Meat? You know there also Spiritual Properties to Cannibalism? Many indigenous people swear by it? I think in order for in to have more of a spiritual effect, it is better to slaughter your prey in front of an alter of Satan and drink the blood instantly while it is still fresh and raw...
    I am so tired of this Veggie religious dogma that does not see the “oneness” of everything. There is no difference in slicing the throat of a baby Dolphin as there is pulling a carrot out of the ground! Killing innocent animals is a great way to cummune with nature. (Just watch your aim when hunting with friends!)
    If you ever want to come out to visit me and my friends in July for Bohemian Grove, we have some great blood drinking ceremonies (Some wild meat & some babies) with major world leaders. We need a rest from planning wars and poisoning the population now and then...good fun with the big boys! We even have some shapeshifting lizards that join us now and then for the blood orgy..loads of fun.
    Just remember, what goes around, might not come around, so enjoy your senses, this world is for your exploitation!
    ----------------------------------

    This review is from: The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability

    Keith does raise some valid points, for example, that all agriculture is environmentally destructive, and that even in the production of vegan foods, some animals die (due to habitat destruction, pollution, insecticides, etc.) However, the fact remains that a hunter-gatherer lifestyle could support only a small fraction of the people alive today–what does she propose happens to the rest? Agriculture is necessary, and raising plants takes up much less land (and other resources) than raising animals. (Keith incorrectly claims that either synthetic fertilizers or animal products are necessary to fertilize crops; she is evidently unaware of veganic (aka stock-free organic) agriculture.

    I laughed out loud when I read Keith’s argument that killing a grain of rice is equivalent to killing a cow (so vegans are taking many more lives than meat-eaters). Can she really believe this? Can anyone?

    Her nutrition section is appalling. She doesn’t just advocate eating meat, she believes it is healthiest to eat large quantities of meat and other kinds of animal fat. She alleges that the reams of scientific research showing the hazards of animal products can’t be trusted because the scientific journals are sponsored by corporate interests. (ALL of them? And their motivation for skewing studies in favour of vegan whole foods is….?) This doesn’t stop her from citing studies when she thinks they support her argument. She says that epidemiological studies are not to be trusted, yet she leans heavily on the work of Weston Price, comparing the health of peoples around the world. Based on this work, she claims that hunter-gatherers all have wonderful health and this is due only to their diet. What about a more physically active lifestyle? What about all the ill and disabled people who can’t survive as hunter-gatherers, but are able to survive thanks to the fruits of civilization?

    Keith also assumes that her experiences as a vegan (chronic indigestion, amenorrhea, constant fatigue, etc.) are typical. Having been a vegan for many years, and knowing many other vegans, I know that they are not typical (and peer-reviewed research bears that out). There are vegans who eat unbalanced diets and develop problems for that reason; there are also many health problems that are unrelated to diet. Keith admits that she never discussed her diet with a doctor (who could have assessed if she really was suffering nutritional deficiencies) or a registered dietician (who could have assessed her diet and suggested changes if it was not adequate). Her belief that veganism caused her health problems is based on the recommendation of an alternative medicine practioner. Although she claims that she feels better on a meat-based diet, she also still has health problems, supposedly due to the “damage” done by her vegan diet. Maybe diet has nothing to do with her health problems at all?

    Her recommendations are:
    - don’t have children (I agree the human population is too high, but I think having one or two children is not unreasonable)
    - don’t drive a car (a great idea, if you are able-bodied and not obliged to live in an area where other forms of transportation are not available)
    - grow your own food

    This last recommendation is especially surprising given her opposition to agriculture. Are millions of tiny back-yard farms really better for the environment than a few large efficiently run farms? She doesn’t explain how growing your own food is better than getting someone else to do it. Sure, if you already have a backyard, growing food is a better use than just leaving it as lawn, but what about all the people who currently live in aparment buildings? Does it really help the environment for all of them to move to the suburbs or countryside so they can become part-time farmers? And how are all these people living in the country supposed to get around without cars?

    So while Keith does make some valid points, this book is rife with errors of fact (especially in the nutrition section), full of errors in logic and self-contradictions, and offers little in the way of practical advice for ameliorating the problems she discusses.


    http://www.ecologos.org/instin...
  • Excellent article Daniel. I resonate with EVERY bit of it. Now that I am living on the east coast, in a town of 141, with my own springhouse, hunting is on my list, as my father was a big hunter too.
    We should connect soon,
    ~Shaman Rawb
  • Excellent article Daniel. I resonate with EVERY bit of it. Now that I am living on the east coast, in a town of 141, with my own springhouse, hunting is on my list, as my father was a big hunter too.
    We should connect soon,
    ~Shaman Rawb
  • Great post! Although our food paths have been different, the healing nature of traditional foods has definitely paved to a healthier life for me. Eating high quality, locally sourced foods based on biochemical individuality is the way to go. I follow no set ideology or dogma, but that of my ever changing body. Results first, beliefs second... and we'll all find our way.

    Looking forward to meeting you in Dallas-
  • George
    85% of the resources used for food is in the way it is produced, only 15% is in the transport of it. I have been raw, mostly fruits and veggies for a while now and have plenty of muscle and feel great. So if you are so right, then why do I as well as others exist? My body needs only 20-50 grams protein per day, half if it is cooked. Look it up the information is available @ The International Society on Nutrition and Diseases of Civilization. Also I weigh 175 lbs and am 5'10. I am not here to prove your way of life is wrong. Just to prove that the way of life you are now condemning is and can be great for health, vitality, and longevity. There are plenty of cases to show this. Stating you starved is flawed too, as it takes the average person 40 days of water fasting before they begin to starve. True hunger feels like a thirst sensation, not a growl of the stomach. Peace.
  • John Barber
    Daniel, I check up on your stuff every so often and your always into stuff that makes me have to dig deeper, I thank you for that.

    I've been vegetarian for 4 years now and mostly vegan for nearly 2 years. I eat about 50-75% raw and I take B-12 and eat some super foods like goji's, hemp seeds, kelp, algae etc. I still do yoga, play sports and perform fine mentally, but I have sensed there is something subtle missing. Earlier someone mentioned the Chinese concept of Jing. Maybe i'm intuiting something along those lines, but I still have a solid sex drive and good overall physical endurance.

    A couple years ago I tried eating raw egg yolks and actually enjoyed them, maybe I will try that again and see how I react to it. It is very important to me not to create physical suffering. Maybe I should resort to eating ants and small insects as I can kill them without inducing pain? I also don't think that ant colonies go into grief and have a funeral when a few ants don't come back!

    One other thing! Is spring water from Florida safe for drinking? I know the water is not nearly as deep here in the peninsula!

    Thanks for your inspiration Daniel!,

    -John, from Lakeland, Florida
  • dirkdonggler
    Our Jing is a deep force that takes awhile to deplete. Raw vegan food supplies us with an abundance of Chi, but not Jing. Eventually, at some point, every raw food vegans I've observed depletes their Jing. Daniel depleted his at one point when his bones began to demineralize....Paul Nison also started to have bone loss and had to add in eggs and raw dairy. It takes time to deplete jing--and during that time we can feel great and have a decent sex drive, etc--but eventually it catches up to alot of raw vegans I've observed---Hair loss, bone loss, weight loss, low libido (especially in men after intercourse) ..And Jing is something that takes a long time to build back. But alot of that can be avoided with some raw eggs, raw milk from a grassfed source, raw herb teas made with rehmannia and ho shou wu and ashwaganda...eating lots of ghee butter, taking deer antler, bee pollen, maca--for some, beef bison or lamb liver and marrow soup work great--and for everyone, doing load-bearing exercise, and qigong.....all of those things can not only preserve but build jing back.
  • Kelly + Craig
    Wow. Very well written D. Thank you for sharing!
  • jenndrew
    daniel - just saw on FB that you are coming to the longevity conference - can't wait to see you there!!! love you honey xoxoxo
  • dirkdonggler
    Wow! How very interesting! You've got some balls bro, I respect the hell out of you.

    Oddly enough, I have practically the opposite path--I was a Weston Price guy for years (but I ate far, far too much cooked meat and cooked foods) and then went raw. I never went raw vegan (I still had raw milk and eggs every now and then) but I've recently come to where you're at--this time to marinated raw meat, fermented raw cod liver oil (and butter oil combo), raw liver, etc.

    Overall, I believe humanity is suffering from both toxicity (which a raw food diet is great for) but also a jing deficiency. You look at the natives Price studied and they have strong jing, strong ojas. You look in the raw food movement at all the feminized men and the women who can't get pregnant or miscarry or are losing hair and you realize that just like humanity can't sustain itself on McDonald's and twinkies, we also can't go too far (at this point in our evolution) on a raw food diet. At this point, we've got to build our jing back.
  • Kathleen
    Wow - powerful. It's nice to hear someone say out loud what many others are thinking. Thank you so much for sharing! I was just teaching my students today about how eating lower on the food chain is more efficient in terms of energy use through food chains, but now I have a different environmental perspective on vegetarianism.
  • RawRadiance
    Wow, love your genuine honesty and courage to speak out... much needed in the raw movement! I may not have always agreed with you (Siberian mushrooms, Lol) but I really respect your bold stance on this.

    Overall my health improved on a high-raw diet, but I've run into some issues including hair-loss. Incorporating some animal products back into my diet (wild-caught fish, organic eggs, raw goat milk) made all the difference. I grew up in far east Siberia where meat is a MUST (can't grow crops in a frozen solid ground), it wasn't long before I intuitively felt drawn back to animal products.

    Reading the responses, I can relate to both sides of the argument. There's definitely benefit to eating plant-based, but I equally see the importance of incorporating some animal products. Perhaps getting best of both worlds is the best approach... lots of fresh, wild greens (raw) and an occasional animal product from a local grass-fed farm! Just a thought.

    Looking forward to more from you ;-)

    Mila (aka Raw Radiance)
  • Guest
    Wow, love your genuine honesty and courage to speak out... much needed in the raw movement! I may not have always agreed with you (Siberian mushrooms, Lol) but I really respect your bold stance on this.

    Overall my health improved on a high-raw diet, but I've run into some issues including hair-loss. Incorporating some animal products back into my diet (wild-caught fish, organic eggs, raw goat milk) made all the difference. I grew up in far east Siberia where meat is a MUST (can't grow crops in a frozen solid ground), it wasn't long before I intuitively felt drawn back to animal products.

    Reading the responses, I can relate to both sides of the argument. There's definitely benefit to eating plant-based, but I equally see the importance of incorporating some animal products. Perhaps getting best of both worlds is the best approach... lots of fresh, wild greens (raw) and an occasional animal product from a local grass-fed farm! Just a thought.

    Looking forward to more from you ;-)

    Mila (aka Raw Radiance)
  • Guest
    Wow, love your genuine honesty and courage to speak out... much needed in the raw movement! I may not have always agreed with you (Siberian mushrooms, Lol) but I really respect your bold stance on this.

    Overall my health improved on a high-raw diet, but I've run into some issues including hair-loss. Incorporating some animal products back into my diet (wild-caught fish, organic eggs, raw goat milk) made all the difference. I grew up in far east Siberia where meat is a MUST (can't grow crops in a frozen solid ground), it wasn't long before I intuitively felt drawn back to animal products.

    Reading the responses, I can relate to both sides of the argument. There's definitely benefit to eating plant-based, but I equally see the importance of incorporating some animal products. Perhaps getting best of both worlds is the best approach... lots of fresh, wild greens (raw) and an occasional animal product from a local grass-fed farm! Just a thought.

    Looking forward to more from you ;-)

    Mila (aka Raw Radiance)
  • il
    Thank you for your post. My diet is basically plant based and raw and it seems to be working for ME. Maybe it's because I'm still cleansing and detoxing the eating habits i grew up with. Inspired by your ideas i tried some raw reindeer meat and goat milk. They made me feel pretty good but I still think that my smoothies give me more energy at the moment. I think I'll stick to my raw vegan ways for now but who knows what I'm eating next year, maybe i'll be on a primal diet, just tryin to keep an open mind haha. Clean, natural food should be the foundation for every human being but what that means to each individual person might vary depending on the needs of their bodies. I might not agree with all the views in your future posts but I'm definitely looking forward to them :)! foor for thought! keep up the good work!. time to boil some wild chaga, peace
  • emily
    I love this post Daniel. Reflects where I have been in attitude to some extent.

    My wakeup has been recent although I had started eating fish fairly regularly for intermittent periods before hand because I felt something was missing although I still identified as vegan haha.

    It's great no longer feeling like I'm on death's door in the quest for health. My wakeup came when I thought back to a time 3 years ago pre raw, when I was still a fairly regular drinker and smoker. I had decided to "get healthy" and so I started doing very intense interval style workouts a few times a week (in a non obsessively regimented and actually fun manner) and went for the foods that I felt would be instincitvely good for me which at the time equated to lots of meat, salads, stir fries, nuts and a little fruit. After two weeks I felt in the best shape of my life. I had soooo much energy and my mind was like lightning.

    About to embark on yet another cleanse I recalled this time and suddently something didn't make sense. How when I was "toxic" did I have more energy, viality and a really good body than in the pure state?

    A nice little synchronicity then ocurred when I stumbled across a blog post from Mark Sisson, I liked his attitude and looked more into his website where he detailed a dietary approach very similar to my instinctive dietary choices. I then had one of those A-Ha moments were I realised had I just stuck to my guns three years ago I would not have had such an unpleasant detour. Although there was some value within it for sure.

    Nice to read "real" posts like this. Keep them coming.

    Here's to non-judgemental cuisine :)

    Emily
  • mikelund
    Daniel,
    Your story sounds like a very educational/entertaining short movie. I'll film it! What do you say?
  • Daniel R
    Daniel. Just want to say that the reality is we're all very different with many different adaptations to many ecosystems. The only way to true health it to eat as per our individual diet needs dictated by our genes. Eskimos need to eat differently then the Quechua Indians. Price proved that. The way to determine what an individual should eat is a not so new but up and coming science on determining individual diet need described and written about in the Metabolic Typing Diet by Bill Wolcott. Daniel check this out you would would make a great positive change with many people as a Metabolic Typing adviser and possibly even a Functional Diagnostic Nutritionist. Your voice is powerful! Just look into it is all I'm saying. You will be amazed at the depth of this science. Price was the fist in a long stream of amazingly brilliant scientist would let to its development.
  • Ernesto Aguila
    Hey Daniel! just wanted to say hi! =) and hope all is well for you. I have been spreading all of the information that I have been learning from you at my job, and now alot of my co-workers come to me for enlightenment and many questions lol. But I always give all the credit to my source by showing them your site. Soon i will have a group of people who want to become pharral and gain higher levels of health from the 4 elements =) So have you decided when your coming down to NYC? lol
  • carnivore
    Chad... give me a break .. "but it's impossible for humans to survive there without clothing, artificial heat, and shelter."

    It's also impossible for a bird to live without building a nest...
    Here's for all the vegans that say eating meat is unnatural because were not designed to..

    Chimps Use "Spears" to Hunt Mammals, Study Says
    http://news.nationalgeographic...
  • I commend you for being open to new information (Weston A. Price), despite being such an admitted raw food fundamentalist. It takes courage and intelligence to not cling to dogma when presented with an alternate perspective that challenges our own.

    Yes, I agree The Vegetarian Myth and Nutrition and Physical Degeneration (I'd also add The Metabolic Typing Diet) are must reads for anyone who has asked the question, what should humans eat?

    Cheers,

    Jason
  • michaelmcevoy
    Excellent Article! I feel like I have gone through a similar journey. Very eloquent! Being a nutritionist I urge you to look at the science of Metabolic Type Nutrition and its adjacent scientists and clinicians. Through their own methods, they have come to your same understanding, with heightened variations in how food can be applied as medicine.
    Regards,
    Michael McEvoy CNC, CMTA
  • Thank you so much for your heart-felt post Daniel! I have shared this with some fellow nutrition colleagues....your journey is one that we can all learn from whether we or our clients are raw, vegan, macro, meat eaters, etc. Keep learning and growing. In much respect and admiration!
  • Coyote
    Indeed a journey with food and self discovery. I myself was a vegetarian for over 10 years, enjoying soy and tofu based meat alternatives as a main source of protein. Now, about 6 years after I started slowing reintroducing meat into my diet I have developed food allergies. The irony of it is, I was trying to be healthy, eat right, get all the proper nutrients, and in reality I was consuming what translates as poison to my intestines. Now, I eat only locally grown foods, and meat from local farmers markets and I am healthier and happier for it.
    A call for a return to nature.
    With love in my heart.
  • Chandra
    Tofu/soy products are very, VERY DIFFICULT to cleanse from the intestines. Back in the early 80's, it was my staple. I'm probably JUST getting the last of that crap outta me! lol!
  • Mystie
    Fearsclave, your comment to Menkit of: "you bear as much guilt as anybody else for the animal death and suffering caused by habitation destruction, deforestation, pesticide use, harvest bykill, pest control, fossil fuel use, topsoil and aquifer depletion, and the industrial, transportation and distribution infrastructures required to get your food to the table" is wrong on all counts for people who grow their own organic food, which many ethical vegans and vegetarians do. Therefore they don't need or use any of the above. Many meat eaters make these hasty assumptions about vegetarians and vegans without having the correct information.
  • zipfromthetopofthefoodchain
    Great Write up. I have been "Primal or Paleo" for almost a year and completely got off of the western diet. I lost 81 lbs and re-gained my health and fitness. keep it up!



  • carnivore
    Hahaha i cant believe people still post that crap about our teeth, stomach, saliva, no claws, how meat is to acidic... vegans say that same crap over and over. i been reading it for years. it gets really old and all that BS has been proven to be way wrong... Good job on giving up that vegan stuff... im about to eat a raw steak.
  • thehighvibecoach
    Keep it REAL bro! :-)

    I think Eric Hoffer said it best: "In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists."

    My take: RESIST NOTHING...An open mind will find what works and also find peace. Forget the beliefs...find what works for YOU.

    I ate 100% raw for many years because it felt good and it worked for me...for a time. As my body changed, it started to ask for different elements....foods...some of which I had to expand my awareness just enough to see that the only thing that was causing discomfort in eating the foods my body was asking for was a THOUGHT...a solidified BELIEF and had NOTHING to do with my body.

    As soon as this was realized, I was able to release it, let it go, and be free.

    Food is a tool and that is all.

    Hopefully, no matter what food we eat, we grow in awareness of who we really are and share the gift we are here to share.

    Many blessings bro...keep sharing YOUR gift...like one of my teachers once said: "If you're NOT being crucified...than you're not FULLY expressing your MISSION" :)

    Talk soon...
  • Questioning
    Hey Daniel-
    Great post!!! I will always respect you, even if we are traveling down different dietary paths as of now. It takes a lot of courage to be so open about the changes you have made and will make in the future. Especially since many of the people you are reaching out to are dogmatic and close-minded about their diet (ahem...raw foodists...you know it is true....)!

    I am seeking out a diet that is beneficial for my body but also supports sustainability. I follow a high raw, low fat vegan diet currently and try to buy locally/follow the seasons. I don't think I will ever be 100% lfrv because I love living in Michigan but we do not produce fruit throughout the winter. I am not interested in shipping bananas and mangos from the tropics on a regular basis, and I don't think such a diet would be sustainable for the human race.

    I am open minded about reintroducing animal products into my diet. However, my decision to become a vegan was heavily based off of the work of T. Colin Campbell. As you know, he teaches that animal products (even when raw) are severely damaging to our health. I think his evidence is compelling and I plan on continuing down the vegan path for the time being (and yes...I am supplementing with B-12 and Vit D).

    There are several great farms nearby where I could get raw milk, raw cheese, and grass-fed beef. I would not be morally opposed to doing so, if I visited the farms and was satisfied with their practices.

    I understand that killing is a necessity of life. However, I still haven't found any evidence that I think trumps Campbell's solid research. The works of Dr. Price have not been enough to trump Campbell's research, at least not in my mind. I'm not saying that it does not exist, I just haven't found it yet. By all means...point me in the right direction if you know of anything. I'm always open minded and ready to learn new things.
  • LittleBird_Young
    Hi Questioning --

    the issue with the China Study is that they did not use real food in any of their animal trials, but toxic (for anybody) protein isolates. Please, please read Nutrition and Physical degeneration, it's free on the internet. It trumps it all.

    Lindsay
  • Questioning
    Thank you! I will definitely read it today.
  • Daniel thanks so much for having the guts to stand up and broadcast this kind of material. I have long been fascinated with the Native American way of Life as to how they could exist out of the wilderness without planting, farming and the like. I am traveling around California right now, at the moment in the deserts, and absorbing all the wisdom I am coming across, on how the different tribes existed off the landscape. I knew long ago, though I spent years pursuing veganism and the raw lifestyle, that one couldn't be vegan and exist on wild food from the wilderness. My take is that civilization and farming are what has even made that thought possible, but I don't want anyone having to slave away for me growing food. The hunter gatherers had it right. Back to the wild!
  • Daniel, today is my 2 year raw anniversary, and I wrote a post on my blog today addressing a question from somebody on RawFu about sugar addiction and a raw food diet. I'm finding that a raw food diet is not only something that is hard to live up to, but it's also a hard thing to live down, huh?

    This has been my experience.

    Sugar. This has been my uphill battle with a high raw lifestyle. Sweets in my diet cause me to obsess over food, and to overeat emotionally. Because of my struggle with sweets, I joke that a raw food diet helped me gain weight and develop an eating disorder! Of course, raw foods have been an amazing miracle in my life over the past two years. Today is my 2 year anniversary of going a raw food diet. And is the anniversary of me going on a journey that would teach me so much about my body, and how it digests and metabolizes food.

    One thing I have learned most profoundly is that the same diet will not work for every person the same way. Some people can thrive on a raw food vegan diet that includes fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and sea plants. If that person is you, you've hit the raw food jackpot! Some people need to add more proteins and fats to thrive, and use more nuts, seeds, avocado, and coconut that others. Some people thrive on the high carbohydrate plan, eating more sweets, and less fat. I think it takes a leap of faith and a lot of trial and error to navigate which version of a raw food diet is going to work for you.

    I have struggled and felt like a failure for not being able to eat a high raw diet, and honestly, I had to cut out all of the sweets. In doing so, I explored adding more non sweet fruits and vegetables, but that alone left me feeling hungry and deprived. So, I explored adding more fat and protein via nuts, seeds, avocado, etc. This left me much sicker, and threatened the longevity of my gallbladder. So, there I was, stuck between a rock and hard place. Can't eat sweets without becoming food obsessed. Can't eat fats without gallbladder attacks. My food world became extremely small. I could eat greens, non sweet fruits (cukes, tomato) and vegetables (broccoli, cabbage, etc), avocado, and coconut. I was cool with that for a while, but then realized that I was creating a raw food trap for myself. This diet wasn't going to keep me satisfied. And when I felt unsatisfied, I would binge on the worst foods possible.

    This is one of the reasons I have asked RawDawg Rory to come in and lead a RawFu 100 Day Challenge. He will lead a challenge that will rock the raw vegan lifestyle, and I look forward to everything I can learn from him.

    Meanwhile, I want to explore what my options are outside of the raw vegan arena that may help me feel more balanced, less obsessive, and less food focused. I have a vision of what this looks like for me, and I feel like I have to explore it. I envision a series of cycles, much like seasons that I can create to allow me to accomplish all of my health and wellness goals. A season of fat burning, a season of cleansing, a season of resting, a season of nourishing. I'm not exactly sure what it looks like yet. But my hope is to create an environment in my life where I am able to include the most broad spectrum of food choices possible through the entire cycle of seasons.

    I know my body, and my body cannot have all of the seasons mixed up into one big soup. I'm looking forward to what lies ahead. I hope the next two years are as pivitol an life changing as the past two have been. Raw food changed my life, and opened my eyes! I am forever humbled and grateful.

    Now, pass the raw grass fed butter!
  • Dani
    I would prefer to be a vegetarian, but my body can't handle it. What you wrote helped me because I've been a guilty omnivore for years now and I've felt weak and willful when actually my body has simply been telling me what it needs. I've always admired the vegans I've met (still do), but I realize my body chemistry requires meat. I recently detoxed from carb overload and am on supplements and a high protein diet to combat adrenal fatigue. The part about adult wisdom being that something must die for us to live resonated with me most. Thanks for recommending that book. I look forward to new blog entries from you now that I've found your site. Blessings to you.
  • Jim0000000002
    This is awesome, I was always curious about the back-story of DV. Real nourishment is where it's at, and sad to say that a lot of people are not going to be getting rich off this new time. However, a lot of people will be healed, cured, and made stronger. We will remember who we are and will learn to live together and co-operate. Raw vegan foods are definitely great for cleansing, but I need my wild salmon to feel truly strong and pumped up, ready to move boulders and run through the forest. Dear and bear meat are also delectable---I've obtained them from hunters. I never really got the 100% vegan/vegetarian thing. 100% anything probably isn't the best ever. Well, 100% honesty is great, and that's what you are Daniel. Thanks and Blessings. Glad I stopped by this blog again. Love the U-toob videos.
  • nice post, thanks!
  • Food Fight!!
    And in the words of Rodney King,
    'Can't we all just get along?'
    nuff said
    deb
  • Dan
    Hey man good article, I do think there could be a little less bashing of the "vegan" lifestyle though. Not all vegans are underweight and starving! I think the raw movement does attract people who have eating disorders and an unhealthy view of food and eating, and these are the people who get identified with the raw food lifestyle. It's sad in a way. I still don't eat animal flesh although I understand why some people do and I hope we can all come together in a non dogmatic way to advance our knowledge and wisdom. There is still so much and so little that we as humans know about the world, yet we cling to what little we do know as absolutes truths and will defend them to the bitter end, such is unnecessary. We all have so much to learn from each other and share that we could advance so much more if we didn't cling to our "dogmas" as you put it. I give you mad props on the the find a spring website it's truly a great idea.
  • LostVegan
    Glad to read there are so many non-haters way down the comment line. Still, everyone could benefit from perusing that book. Do it :)
  • LostVegan
    I did not have time to read through ALL of the identical comments, but from what I did read I am certain that everyone needs to click over to Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price.

    I'll list it again so you do not have to scroll back up: http://www.journeytoforever.or...

    Save it to your hard drive.

    Take a few weeks to read and comprehend the whole book.

    Or just read the first few chapters and look at the photos and read their captions.

    That is all.
  • David
    awesome article, Daniel! My experiences with diet experimentation pretty much parallels yours exactly. Right now I am still mostly raw and I have tried to go towards the raw, primal diet. I'm sure you know what this is but its mostly paleolithic foods, free-range animals or wild animals with organ meats, and vegetables. Low fruit, low sugar, low carbs. I feel reaaaally amazing doing this, LOADS of energy without the terrible ups and downs of sugar binging.

    I had a question, how do you feel about raw animal organs and meat?
  • marina
    hey daniel, i just wanted to thank you for writing about your amazing dietary/spiritual journey. it is very hard to look outside of any "ism" so i really admire you for going beyond all that. i am 16 and have been vegetarian for 4 years and vegan for almost 2, and right now i feel great and don't want to change anything about my diet. you made me consider, however, that my perspective will shift later on as i age and times change. this article served as an important reminder for me to always be a truth seeker and to be aware of how easy it is to surround myself with dogma. i didn't entirely agree with everything you said, but i 100% respect you and what you do!
  • Mary Minihane
    Can you please remove my previous comment. I do not know you or your reasons for taking the path that you are taking and had no right to get personal.
    I think that I was just very annoyed and lashed out.
  • Daniel.
    I am about to open a Raw Vegan business( www.mintywellness.com) but I have always known that you follow the money so now I am questioning my decision. Is there no longer any money to made from the raw vegan diet and should I be changing my corporate strategy as well as you.
  • chad81
    Animal protein is animal protein. It does not matter if it is conventionally raised or organic, grass-fed. Animal protein is high in methionine and acidifies our blood. Animal protein is also a burden on the body to break down. Cooked animal protein is even more disastrous. Do you like raw meat?? Like, just plain raw meat and organs without any seasonings?? No thanks.... the overwhelming majority of people will not find these things appealing.

    Raw milk is not good for humans, it's just a little less harmful do to not being pasteurized. Casein is very difficult to digest. Humans do not produce any rennin. There are nodes in human female breasts that inject bacillus bifidus with the milk. This bacteria helps to digest casein. And plus, human casein and cow casein are much different! Babies also produce small amounts of rennin. Rennin, and often times lactase, are not produced after the baby is weaned. Adults also stop producing the enzyme needed to break down galactose, which become a foreign substance and is stored in the body and causes issues. Tell me how you would get milk from a cow in nature?? Would you just lay on your back and start sucking? No other animals consume milk, especially that of another species, as adults.

    What benefits come from consuming raw animal products??? You fail to mention specific reasons. Every fruit and vegetable is a 'complete protein'. Humans can get every amino acid they require from fruit. Protein requirements are low for adults, so that isn't an issue. Roughly 1/3 or our protein requirement is achieved from the body recycling protein. Getting enough high quality amino acids is easy on a raw vegan diet.

    Just because humans became smart enough to make tools and hunt animals doesn't mean we need to eat their carcass and drink their secretions. Tool use by other animals in nature is rather limited. The majority of animals use what they are born with to catch or gather the food sources that they are available to them.

    I don't know what type of training you have, but you can't determine what humans should be eating based on anthropology. You can't deny what our anatomy, physiology, biochemistry says; that we should be eating a high fruit, raw vegan diet.
  • @Chad: to quote Richard Nikoley of www.freetheanimal.com, since I couldn't have written it better (although I'm one up on him since I do have an anthropology degree):

    "As a paleo blogger and lay student of evolution, anthropology and natural selection -- far more than of health and nutrition vis-a-vis current science, medical research and stacks of books -- I have a certain time-saving luxury. I tend to dismiss out-of-hand studies, papers, hypotheses, blog posts, podcasts, newsprint, and books that clearly contradict one of the most established fields of human knowledge: evolutionary biology and its underlying natural logic of natural selection. Humans are animals. Being as well established as it is, it's my position that the onus of proof is upon those who, when contradicting clear implications of our evolution, do so, i.e., clearly lay out how human evolution is either toast, or got it wrong in a particular area. And none do, because they likely can't. Their research, studies, books and whatnot exist in a scientific vacuum for me. And that makes them less than worthless, and I'm being girly generous. ...By the way, I often find myself in need of kindling for a campfire..."

    There is absolutely no scientific debate that human beings are omnivorous and are adapted to eat a diet that includes meat, and cooked meat at that. The anthropological and archaeological evidence in support of human omnivory is overwhelming and undeniable; it's impossible to argue otherwise when faced with middens composed of shellfish and fish bones dozens of feet high, or any of the innumerable kill sites and hearth sites in the archaeological record, or the untold numbers of projectile points in collections, or the more recent historical evidence of hunting, or our forward binocular vision, single stomachs, short intestines, canine teeth, and physiological adaptations for throwing and persistence hunting. We've been eating meat for the past 2.5 million years or so, and in some cultures meat has constituted in excess of 80% of the diet.

    You, of course, are welcome to believe and eat whatever you want. However, I choose to eat a diet that I know my body is evolved to eat, i.e. one that approximates as closely as I can manage a hunter-gatherer diet; one that does not include grains, beans, potatoes, sugar, soya, and dairy, all of which are recent dietary innovations that didn't co-evolve with humans, and does include meat, poultry, eggs. shellfish and fish (shot or caught in the wild by myself by preference, pastured/free-range/organic/wild-caught otherwise), vegetables (grown by myself as much as possible), fruits, nuts, fungi and greens.

    Six weeks after ditching the SAD and going on this diet I reduced my blood glucose and blood pressure to normal levels and halved my cholesterol and triglyceride levels (as a chronically hypertensive Type II diabetic with one heart attack under my belt this was quite thrilling, to put it mildly). I'm rapidly approaching my healthy weight, too. Simply put, I know what I am, and it's going to take more than the usual veg(etari)an bafflegab (animal carcass? Puh-leeze! You should try some sometime; it's tasty and nutritious) and scare tactics (blood acidification? Eeek!) to convince me that I should eat like I'm a Paranthropus boisei instead of a Homo sapiens.
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